Thanks for inviting me to #DATM. Since it is 11/11, I’d like to start out by thanking all the vets who continue to serve in wildland fire. Their skills and experience have enhanced the whole wildland fire community. Here’s some info on Vet crews: blm.gov/careers/vetera…
I’m a retired wildland fire guy who worked for the National Park Service, the US Forest Service, and the Bureau of Land Management. I spent years on incident management teams and responded to over 85 major incidents. #DATM
Most of those were wildfires, but some were all-risk, including a failing dam, floods, windstorms, and the militia occupation of federal lands. I spent my early IMT career in the SW where I worked my way up to a Type I Public Information Officer and a Liaison Officer. #DATM
Much of my training was done with one of the two SW Type 1 IMTs and after I moved to OR, my buddies on the team would occasionally call for help when they had a tough fire. #DATM
In the SW, the last week of June is typically when they have the largest number of large fires as dry lightning comes in right before the monsoonal moisture shows up. The Yarnell Hill Fire started from a lightning strike on Friday, June 28, 2013. #DATM
I was sitting at home that Sunday looking at new fires in AZ between yard chores & noticed the Yarnell Hill Fire. The chaparral fuels can cause difficulty when driven by winds, but are rarely a long-term issue, so I wasn’t thinking I would get a call to head south. #DATM
Winds were indeed causing some problems & threatening Yarnell & Peoples Valley. The SW IMT was called out to take over the fire but they had the capacity to work the fire as it was so my mind shifted to the fire conditions in OR & WA and the work ahead here in the NW. #DATM
Late in the afternoon, I received a text from a friend on the team: “LODDs.” Line of duty deaths. Plural.

Damn.

#DATM
I knew I would get a call so I talked it over with my wife. My previous experience with fatalities had been on the Iron 44 helicopter crash that killed 9 in 2011. #DATM
Iron 44 was a tough one not just because of the fatalities, but because of the criminal investigation afterwards. It was a gut punch. #DATM wildfiretoday.com/tag/iron-44/
I had not handled that well. After the memorial service, I generally checked out at work and home for about 3 months. #DATM
I promised I would do things differently for this one, including taking some time off after I got back. My wife gave her permission. The resource order showed up soon after and on Monday I was in Yarnell. On Tuesday I was conducting media briefings. #DATM
Here’s a blog post about one of those briefings for those of you interested in crisis communications and the stresses fatality incidents bring to media interactions. #DATM
incident-services.com/anchorpointblo…
Saturday, I bumped up to Prescott to help with the memorial service set for Monday. The following Wednesday, we worked several funerals. I was back home on Thursday—an 11-day assignment. #DATM
I saw this movie when it first came out and it was tough. I didn’t know what to expect except that the ending was already known. The uncertainty about the film was big topic of discussion among wildland firefighters. It was a bit easier this time. #DATM
As we watch this and think about fatality incidents, I believe it’s important to remember this passage from the Minutes of the Mann Gulch Fire Board of Review in 1949: #DATM 1/3
“We must view it in the light of decisions made at the time. It is difficult to foretell the future. It is going to be difficult not to take the tragedy as the substance.” DATM 2/3
The Mann Gulch Fire is the subject of Norman Maclean’s brilliant and moving work, “Young Men and Fire.” You should read it. #DATM 3/3
Here's a good article on the common denominators of wildland fire fatalities. Among several factors, time of day shows up quite often. iawfonline.org/article/common…
If you want to help wildland firefighters, there’s no better charity than the Wildland Firefighter Foundation. They step in and do things for families that the agencies cannot. #DATM wffoundation.org
Here’s a video with Vicki Minor, the founder of the Wildland Firefighter Foundation. #DATM
cnn.com/videos/us/2013…
For Fire folks who are following along: You know Wildland Fire is ridiculously complex and there is no way to do justice to all the issues with tweets during a movie. If I only mention a piece or don’t mention something, that’s not a diminishment or a slight. 1/ #DATM
Also, the goal of this project is to introduce college students to an aspect of emergency management they may not be familiar with, so many of the points will be general in nature or aimed at stirring further interest and classroom conversation. 2/ #DATM
As to the last actions of Granite Mountain, I won’t say much beyond referencing the AZ Forestry report and a few general observations as this remains an emotional topic for many (including me) and family members and loved ones may be following along as well. Thanks. 3/3 #DATM
With all of that background info out of the way, I'm ready to push play at 1700 Pacific time. #DATM

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12 Nov
A few words on investigations: whenever you have a serious accident or fatalities, there will be an investigation and sometimes multiple ones—and they may not all agree on the issues. 1/ #DATM
That was the case here as the AZ Dept of Forestry and AZ OSHA issued completely different reports. The former reflected the current thinking in the wildland fire community, which was to get away from looking for cause and blame. 2/ #DATM
Whenever you have an investigation, you are operating in hindsight and it is impossible to recreate the stresses and time compression decision-makers were operating under at the time. Simply, before the accident, the outcome is unknown. Afterwards, it is known. 3/ #DATM
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12 Nov
Some have said this was wildland fire’s 9/11. I don’t know. I do know our community was in shock and the huge assistance from @FDNY was a steadying force as we built towards the memorial service. #DATM 1/
Also, @LACoFDPIO sent all members of their Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM) program to help the IMT working the fire and all the personnel planning for the memorial service. #DATM 2/
I debated about seeing a CISM peer. I didn’t think I needed it. I finally decided to go so I could talk about the experience in classes I teach. It took me about 20 seconds in to realize I’d been lying to myself and I did need it. #DATM 3/
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12 Nov
Most families knew within 30-45 minutes from social media/news sources. This highlights how our early 20th century death notification process is no longer valid. Ideally, you’d want law enforcement, an agency rep, & a chaplain to be the first to inform the family. #DATM 1/
That takes time & can't beat social media. Also, any agency would have difficulty notifying 19 families simultaneously. We now ask firefighters to tell families that if something happens, they may find out from other sources but we will get there as soon as possible. #DATM 2/
I’ve been on an incident where the news but not the name broke and we had to wait hours until the coroner announced the name. It created an enormous amount of stress for every family with someone on the incident. #DATM 3/
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12 Nov
The fallen had been taken to Phoenix because the Prescott morgue could not handle 19. There, they were under the watch of the Honor Guard 24 hours a day. #DATM 1/
On the day they were to be transported back to Prescott I was assigned to do a live interview on a street corner after the hearses had passed. #DATM 2/
Up until that point, the whole thing seemed abstract and almost unbelievable to me. But. The 19 hearses passing at slow speed through downtown Prescott and the thousands of people watching in absolute quietness got to me. That made it joltingly real. #DATM 3/
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12 Nov
Now we go to Yarnell Hill. #DATM
I’m not going to comment too much on this part of the movie. I will say the dialogue is partly fiction but the last bits during the entrapment are taken from the actual radio traffic. #DATM
Here’s a video that discusses the findings of the first investigative report. #DATM
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12 Nov
The first scene is legit. Experienced fire folks put a lot of thought into efficient packing. After all, you’ll be carrying it and there is an incentive for firefighters to save energy whenever possible. Still, just about everyone allows one creature comfort item. #DATM
You see tools of the trade like the Incident Response Pocket Guide—the IRPG—which standardizes responses to things like injuries, air operations, and increasing fire behavior. Everyone carries one. #DATM
nwcg.gov/sites/default/…
You also see the batteries and a radio. There’s a saying that wildfires run on AA batteries. We go through thousands on a large incident. Each radio needs 9 AAs and on a busy day, 172,000 batteries will be used across the country. #DATM
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