A few words on investigations: whenever you have a serious accident or fatalities, there will be an investigation and sometimes multiple ones—and they may not all agree on the issues. 1/ #DATM
That was the case here as the AZ Dept of Forestry and AZ OSHA issued completely different reports. The former reflected the current thinking in the wildland fire community, which was to get away from looking for cause and blame. 2/ #DATM
Whenever you have an investigation, you are operating in hindsight and it is impossible to recreate the stresses and time compression decision-makers were operating under at the time. Simply, before the accident, the outcome is unknown. Afterwards, it is known. 3/ #DATM
Before, things are dynamic, complex, uncertain, and time-sensitive. After, we simplify and the process becomes linear and static as we choose what to focus on in pursuit of the outcome and “cause.” 4/ #DATM
If you look at early wildland fatality investigative reports, you see they recognize the problem of hindsight bias. Sometime in the 1950s-early 1960s, there’s a change in the reports as the word “negligence” starts appearing and they take on a more legal tone. 5/ #DATM
During the 1990s and early 2000s, there were several notable investigations that levelled charges at individual firefighters for their decision-making. The AZ OSHA report followed that pattern of looking for cause and blame. 6/ #DATM
That report was full of phrases like “should have,” could have,” and “failed to.” In contrast, the other report looked at conditions and considered that Granite Mountain was a well-trained and experienced crew. 7/ #DATM
If they made decisions that led to a bad outcome, wouldn’t others of similar training and experience make similar decisions under similar circumstances? We must seek to identify conditions that push decisions that result in bad outcomes. 8/ #DATM
That’s part of a learning culture. We get nowhere blaming individuals and pretending that a new policy will fix things. We need to understand the totality of the incident from the individuals on the ground making decisions to the org and policies that influence them. 9/ #DATM
James Reason and Sidney Dekker have both written books that influenced the wildland fire community. They look at the folly of “human error” and placing blame. Instead, they focus on systems. 10/ #DATM
Daniel Kahneman’s book “Thinking Fast and Slow” has nothing to do with emergency response, but everything to do with emergency response. It delves into how we think and process information, including the unexpected. 11/ #DATM
“Managing the Unexpected” by Weick and Sutcliffe talks about high reliability organizations and learning cultures. 12/ #DATM
Finally, the Wildfire Lessons Learned Center has a great cache of documents and reports from fatality fires and others influential incidents. It’s a great resource for many other bits of emergency management too. 13/13 #DATM wildfirelessons.net/home
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Some have said this was wildland fire’s 9/11. I don’t know. I do know our community was in shock and the huge assistance from @FDNY was a steadying force as we built towards the memorial service. #DATM 1/
Also, @LACoFDPIO sent all members of their Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM) program to help the IMT working the fire and all the personnel planning for the memorial service. #DATM 2/
I debated about seeing a CISM peer. I didn’t think I needed it. I finally decided to go so I could talk about the experience in classes I teach. It took me about 20 seconds in to realize I’d been lying to myself and I did need it. #DATM 3/
Most families knew within 30-45 minutes from social media/news sources. This highlights how our early 20th century death notification process is no longer valid. Ideally, you’d want law enforcement, an agency rep, & a chaplain to be the first to inform the family. #DATM 1/
That takes time & can't beat social media. Also, any agency would have difficulty notifying 19 families simultaneously. We now ask firefighters to tell families that if something happens, they may find out from other sources but we will get there as soon as possible. #DATM 2/
I’ve been on an incident where the news but not the name broke and we had to wait hours until the coroner announced the name. It created an enormous amount of stress for every family with someone on the incident. #DATM 3/
The fallen had been taken to Phoenix because the Prescott morgue could not handle 19. There, they were under the watch of the Honor Guard 24 hours a day. #DATM 1/
On the day they were to be transported back to Prescott I was assigned to do a live interview on a street corner after the hearses had passed. #DATM 2/
Up until that point, the whole thing seemed abstract and almost unbelievable to me. But. The 19 hearses passing at slow speed through downtown Prescott and the thousands of people watching in absolute quietness got to me. That made it joltingly real. #DATM 3/
I’m not going to comment too much on this part of the movie. I will say the dialogue is partly fiction but the last bits during the entrapment are taken from the actual radio traffic. #DATM
Here’s a video that discusses the findings of the first investigative report. #DATM
The first scene is legit. Experienced fire folks put a lot of thought into efficient packing. After all, you’ll be carrying it and there is an incentive for firefighters to save energy whenever possible. Still, just about everyone allows one creature comfort item. #DATM
You see tools of the trade like the Incident Response Pocket Guide—the IRPG—which standardizes responses to things like injuries, air operations, and increasing fire behavior. Everyone carries one. #DATM nwcg.gov/sites/default/…
You also see the batteries and a radio. There’s a saying that wildfires run on AA batteries. We go through thousands on a large incident. Each radio needs 9 AAs and on a busy day, 172,000 batteries will be used across the country. #DATM
Thanks for inviting me to #DATM. Since it is 11/11, I’d like to start out by thanking all the vets who continue to serve in wildland fire. Their skills and experience have enhanced the whole wildland fire community. Here’s some info on Vet crews: blm.gov/careers/vetera…
I’m a retired wildland fire guy who worked for the National Park Service, the US Forest Service, and the Bureau of Land Management. I spent years on incident management teams and responded to over 85 major incidents. #DATM
Most of those were wildfires, but some were all-risk, including a failing dam, floods, windstorms, and the militia occupation of federal lands. I spent my early IMT career in the SW where I worked my way up to a Type I Public Information Officer and a Liaison Officer. #DATM