woke up early today
felt like I needed to
felt like I needed to
https://twitter.com/crabcrawler1/status/1459963732667285512
"EU moves to add airlines, others to Belarus sanctions list" apnews.com/article/lifest…
"Infamous Ohio bank robber who vanished 50 years ago ID’ed as dead man" nypost.com/2021/11/13/ohi…
If you didn't watch ANY of the Rittenhouse trial these past few weeks, today is THE day to tune in because it's closing arguments.
Both the prosecution and defense will lay out their case one more time. Start to finish.
Both the prosecution and defense will lay out their case one more time. Start to finish.
"Liverpool blast declared terror incident - police say passenger took explosive device into taxi" news.sky.com/story/liverpoo…
Correct 
*moves goal post*
"Vile messages sent to Rittenhouse judge include death threat against his children, call him a KKK member: report" thepostmillennial.com/rittenhouse-ju…
this is interesting
According to this CNN expose - Kamala Harris could NOT address the US - Mexico border situation and that Biden wanted the Northern Triangle stuff, specifically? weird edition.cnn.com/2021/11/14/pol…
According to this CNN expose - Kamala Harris could NOT address the US - Mexico border situation and that Biden wanted the Northern Triangle stuff, specifically? weird edition.cnn.com/2021/11/14/pol…
CONFIRMED LEGIT
description for "Me at the zoo" (YouTube's first video) now says:
"When every YouTuber agrees that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube"
description for "Me at the zoo" (YouTube's first video) now says:
"When every YouTuber agrees that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube"
might as well tune in now
"Trump ally Bannon taken into custody on contempt charges" apnews.com/article/steve-…
Showtime folks
Jury instructions being discussed now
Apparently the motion for mistrial WAS filed today
(Nitpicky legal yada yada about what to say under each and every charge)
stuff about the pixels now
^^The Judge says the case will "fall like a house of cards" if the methodology used proves unreliable with regards to pixel interpolation
Now maybe measuring a gun might drop one of the counts if it qualifies as long enough. or something.
26 inches
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨COUNT 6 AGAINST KYLE RITTENHOUSE IS DISMISSED🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
🚨🚨Here's the moment the prosecution in the Rittenhouse case gave a VICTORY for Kyle just now.
One of the charges against him is DISMISSED (count 6) because of the gun's length.
One of the charges against him is DISMISSED (count 6) because of the gun's length.
So as far as I know? Count 6 and 7 here are gone abc7chicago.com/kyle-rittenhou…
(Hello new people FOLLOW my account as the Rittenhouse trial wraps up.... and stay around afterwards I like making new friends please and thank you)
reading the instructions to the jury now
Judge sounds super serious and official but it's probably better in your imagination
also he just mentioned to the jury about dropping count 6
Judge sounds super serious and official but it's probably better in your imagination
also he just mentioned to the jury about dropping count 6
Today's discourse as the closing arguments commence
It'll be interesting to see how the state adapts to this last-minute curveball on the gun charge being dropped
It'll be interesting to see how the state adapts to this last-minute curveball on the gun charge being dropped
Judge is having a boomer moment while reading instructions, i think he's making edits while delivering them
instructions still going
i think instructions are over
Someone's commentary for the jury instructions for those who care
https://twitter.com/The_Petrichory/status/1460287344737542146
IN OTHER NEWS: first modern age space "geopolitics" event?
anyway it's a thing
anyway it's a thing
ANYWAY another Rittenhouse commentary thread that's talking about the nitty gritty
https://twitter.com/aimeeterese/status/1460291150963609600
yeah I'm more of a highlights big picture thread
if i started complaining about Binger it'd be unending
if i started complaining about Binger it'd be unending
Interesting highlight of the Rittenhouse trial this morning
Alternative stream
"Alex Jones Guilty by Default in All Sandy Hook Defamation Suits" nytimes.com/2021/11/15/us/…
OK INSTRUCTIONS OVER
RITTENHOUSE CLOSING ARGUMENTS TIME
RITTENHOUSE CLOSING ARGUMENTS TIME
Defense objects to Binger bringing up curfew charge, judge allows Binger to mention since a curfew was announced, regardless of how that plays into Rittenhouse case
just gonna share Binger's slides since it's easy this way
Prosecutor Binger again described Anthony Huber as the true "hero" in the Kyle Rittenhouse situation
"THE ONLY KILLER"
Binger brings in the disputed FBI drone video
they're now playing this on loop a few times, bringing up provocation argument now
Binger points the gun in (presumably) the jury's general direction (he had someone make sure it was empty first)
they played this top-down view again
Back to slideshow
Binger implies the Ziminiskis aspect is a "red herring"
Binger describes things like a "bar fight"
Binger tries to say Rosenbaum wasn't reaching for the gun
really this is a slide
"You lose the right to self-defense when you're the one who brought the gun." -- Thomas Binger's argument in Rittenhouse trial
> YouTube made a clampdown against independent channels livestreaming Rittenhouse trial.
> But left places like CBS and USA Today's livestreams UP.... who are seen CENSORING content in their coverage.
🚨🚨Think beyond the Rittenhouse case. Please. This is generally worrying.
> But left places like CBS and USA Today's livestreams UP.... who are seen CENSORING content in their coverage.
🚨🚨Think beyond the Rittenhouse case. Please. This is generally worrying.
Rundown of today so far
https://twitter.com/TMJ4Stephanie/status/1460308154646937611
Here’s what my twitter feed is saying about the Rittenhouse case at the moment
at least the Rekieta stream (should) be caught up with the trial livestream again, once the break ends. (in roughly 7 mins)
we back
More slideshow
Binger saying Kyle Rittenhouse lied in the immediate aftermath of the Rosenbaum shooting
Binger said Rittenhouse entered a state of "provocation" after killing Rosenbaum.... could kill again....
> WARNING SHOTS
What? lol
I cite the Boogie & Frank Castle episode as: warning shots being a bad thing
> WARNING SHOTS
What? lol
I cite the Boogie & Frank Castle episode as: warning shots being a bad thing
> Crowd never even hurts the Defendant
Finally Binger moves on to second incident, replays a video
Binger says Kyle Rittenhouse has no remorse
Binger says Kyle thought he was a "hero in a western"
Binger says Kyle thought he was a "hero in a western"
(other news)
as Binger does frame by frame... reminds me that the prosecution has a time limit that we're coming up on, thankfully
More slideshow
more slideshow.... and Binger brought up the tiktok account lol
More from Mr. Slideshow lawyer Binger
ooof
🧐the question in item 3 is bait by Binger, don't answer it
Binger trying his best to gracefully describe Rosenbaum as a person
The consensus by many is that Binger had a strong first half but he's fumbling now
Binger now argues Rosenbaum never threatened to kill anyone, but he glossed over the whole "shoot me [Naughty word], shoot me [Naughty word]"
still going
I don't know what to say at this point, Binger trailed off and is just rambling
"does Kyle Rittenhouse get a pass?" Binger asks jury
"[Kyle Rittenhouse] provoked everything," asserts Binger.
BINGER FINALLY FINISHES his closing argument in Kyle Rittenhouse case
wew
Judge said he didn't time how long Binger's closing argument was in the Rittenhouse trial
Rittenhouse defense is beginning
Defense opens up by calling Binger a LIAR, Binger objects, Judge allows defense to make their argument
"THIS CASE IS NOT A GAME" defense says
"THIS CASE IS NOT A GAME" defense says
"PROVACATION is only being brought up now by Binger because things blew up in his face"
Look at Bingers face
"MAGIC PIXEL CAMERA"
"NOTHING reckless about my client's conduct"
"THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and [BINGER] has the burden of proof"
Defense brings up how close Rosenbaum got to Rittenhouse
"WE KNOW that his hand was on the gun"
"WE KNOW that his hand was on the gun"
defense brings up testimony about Rosenbaum's medication
Defense explains Rosenbaum self-defense by Rittenhouse carries over to Count 2
"When my client shot Mr. Rosenbaum, he feared for his life.... Richie McGinniss helped us more than he hurt us."
Richards has a strong and direct start on Rittenhouse defense
Already on Count 4
"Kyle. Rittenhouse. Is running away. From Anthony Huber." -- Richards
Said state used term "Active Shooter" because it's a loaded word
Said state used term "Active Shooter" because it's a loaded word
Defense brings up the fact Rittenhouse ran for two blocks after shooting Rosenbaum and did NOT shoot anyone at random, along the way (to go against active shooter label)
already up to Count 5 in defense closing arguments at Rittenhouse trial
Richards said Gaige Gross "wouldn't admit there was one in the chamber" when it comes to Gaige's own gun
-- Defense lawyer brings up $10 million lawsuit Gaige has going on
-- Defense lawyer brings up $10 million lawsuit Gaige has going on
self defense slide
Dominick Black brought up: "I don't think [Black's testimony] helped the state."
Richards brings up the fact that Kyle helped injured people is backed up by witness testimonies.
Richards brings up the fact that Kyle helped injured people is backed up by witness testimonies.
"Their testimonies are what reasonable doubt is made of"
"Uh-oh that's not good for the state"
Defense disputes Binger's stance holding a gun and why it matters to the drone footage
"Pick and choose and play favorites" when collecting evidence
Defense lawyer mentions how they were forthcoming with Rittenhouse's phone and had nothing to hide
Defense lawyer mentions how they were forthcoming with Rittenhouse's phone and had nothing to hide
"Nothing militia or white supremacist" in Kyle Rittenhouse phone... Gaige Gross's phone had a valid search warrant and it wasn't executed
"TEN MILLION REASONS"
"Kyle under arrest for first-degree before autopsy done, bullets were still at the Car Source, they were worried about another night of riots"
Defense lawyer brings up Joe Scarborough gaffe about Rittenhouse "fired 60 times" line
"My client is no longer charged with minor in a possession of a firearm"
"But [Binger] needs the AR-15 to make his argument" to the jury, said defense
"But [Binger] needs the AR-15 to make his argument" to the jury, said defense
"The end of the gun barrel was not swabbed" referring to DNA on gun, not swabbed
but soot was on Rosenbaum's hand
but soot was on Rosenbaum's hand
"Rosenbaum used the n-word, did the false-step thing, did not see Kyle as aggressive...."
"Go home we have our own medics, you stooges" said Gaige, recalls defense
defense says "no proof" Rosenbaum took his meds
CarSource guys testimonies contradicted by others about:
-- asking people to defend property
-- getting paid for it
-- asking people to defend property
-- getting paid for it
"[all of these witnesses] say they had permission why would they lie about that"
"They [the state] had the burden of proof in preserving evidence"
[Gaige lies to police about being armed, dropped his gun] "Ladies and gentleman this is called obstruction" argues defense.
"Why didn't Gaige Grosskreutz let Kyle Rittenhouse be?" defense says about how Kyle was going to go turn himself into the police and Gaige gave chase anyway
"Left hand, phone. Right hand, gun."
"KYLE DIDN'T SHOOT when Gaige put his hands up!" -- defense
"Left hand, phone. Right hand, gun."
"KYLE DIDN'T SHOOT when Gaige put his hands up!" -- defense
Defense argues Rosenbaum was going to ambush Kyle at the car lot
"HOCUS POCUS AND OUT OF FOCUS" -- Defense lawyer Richards on last minute video play that was introduced by prosecution and James Armstrong
^^ "It took three days and 20 hours of work to come up with that picture!"
bringing up soot hand
Rosenbaum "didn't need to chase [Kyle], didn't need to keep chasing him"
"FOUR FEET AND CLOSING"
Defense brings out a tape measure, and then finishes off by adding "LUNGE"
Defense brings out a tape measure, and then finishes off by adding "LUNGE"
"Was Rosenbaum going to give Kyle a key to the city? what was he going to do?"
"Ladies and gentlemen: facts and truth matter"
“The red herrings in this case are by the state. With their “SUPER BULLETS” claims on full metal jackets and hallow points”
"Kyle Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum to stop a threat to his person."
defense says Rosenbaum was crazy
"Kyle Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum to stop a threat to his person."
defense says Rosenbaum was crazy
"If Kyle Rittenhouse wanted to be an active shooter, why did he give Nick Smith his body armor? Why would someone give up their body armor if they were looking for trouble?"
defenses mentions GRAMBO testified about being pelted by rocks
Nathan DeBruin aspect brought up now, how he cooperated with detectives in handing over evidence, DeBruin talked about Mr. Rosenbaum to authorities, but "never met Kyle Rittenhouse" -- said defense
"Mr Binger made it his goal to put my client's head on his wall"
"After meeting Mr Binger I was very uncomfortable" -- DeBruin said
"After meeting Mr Binger I was very uncomfortable" -- DeBruin said
Defense going into Rosenbaum's background now
Defense argues nobody wants fires happen and businesses burned
"You saw people spray-paint the word "LOOT" and destroy property.... they were RIOTERS. They weren't demonstrators."
bringing up Jacob Marshall facebook post now. Defense argues nobody knew who Gaige was (rebutting Marshall's testimony about Jacob saying he lied about Gaige's words in the quote about Kyle)
"[Jacob Marshall] wanted to get Gaige's words out."
"[Jacob Marshall] wanted to get Gaige's words out."
Defense argues about Kyle and Yellowpants exchange, arguing Kyle's gun position was low-ready.
"Judge the actions by the standards of a 17-year-old, not Mr. Binger."
"Kyle yells friendly friendly friendly three times...." defense argues Rittenhouse was naïve going into Rosenbaum encounter "chasing Kyle Rittenhouse into a corner, shooting 4 times" in rapid succession.
"Kyle worked in Kenosha. His dad was in Kenosha" defense brings up.
"What I saw what happened in Kenosha? It bothered me.... people can protest but they can't burn property.... Kyle feels for this community, he worked as a lifeguard.... he cleaned up graffiti without getting paid. Was that his 'master plan?' ridiculous!"
bringing up dr. black
"To believe [Kyle] could stay in the [immediate vicinity of the first shooting] is preposterous!"
"The whole event took 2 minutes and 55 seconds from the time of [Rittenhouse] yelling FRIENDLY FRIENDLY FRIENDLY to attempted surrender to law enforcement"
Defense re-emphasizes how fast everything was happening
"Mr. Rosenbaum could've put up his hands and backed up! But no he's diving for Kyle's gun."
"There were no unfired bullets at the scene from the AR" defense says, bringing up officer bray.
"Mr. Hernandez" had a point of view, defense acknowledges but then explains how the MSM called everyone demonstrators.
"But does that mean his video is lying? he doesn't have a dog in this fight."
"But does that mean his video is lying? he doesn't have a dog in this fight."
"I've yet to hear Mr. Binger explain why Rosenbaum had the right to chase my client" -- Rittenhouse defense lawyer
Defense lawyer goes through witnesses, and said Binger accused them all of lying.
"They had to charge the 'white supremacist.'... they never assessed their case."
"Ladies and gentleman this is a political case.... the district attorney's office is marching forward with this case because they need someone to be responsible. Kyle Rittenhouse is not that individual. The rioters are." -- defense
"Their whole case relies on that ONE photograph," defense lawyer says mentioning the hocus pocus 20 hours play for provocation.
"Kyle Rittenhouse is interested in his community and trying to do good"
Talking about Kyle Rittenhouse's movements as a factor throughout the evening
"Kyle asked for a fire extinguisher, he took off trying to go down and help protect that property"
burning dumpster
^^ points out the reaction from Mr. Rosenbaum "WHY YOU DO THAT"
Zaminskis. One with a firearm another with a flashlight
"Kyle Rittenhouse was alone. He had been taken away from the herd."
"shoot me N-word, shoot me n-word"
"He's there to support Black Lives Matter? yeahhh right" -- defense lawyer
"He's there to support Black Lives Matter? yeahhh right" -- defense lawyer
"look at how angry Rosenbaum is"
"You see them shoot in flammable liquid"
mentions Rosenbaum tipping over a porta potty
defense brings up a TRAILER where Rosenbaum got chain from
Rosenbaum bag by the fire
mentions Rosenbaum tipping over a porta potty
defense brings up a TRAILER where Rosenbaum got chain from
Rosenbaum bag by the fire
Mr Rosenbaum masked with his chain
"kyle asking if people need medical, encountered yellowpants and had their moment"
*tries to find Mr. Balch*
Rittenhouse gets the phone call and acquires the fire extinguisher
(paraphrasing throughout but I think this is the part after the phone call when Rittenhouse is on his way to put fires out)
^^ defense brings up how Kyle walked passed them
"you can hear the destruction of the vehicles"
"Look at all those people destroying cars."
"listen for first shot"
"then the four shots in quick succession."
"listen for first shot"
"then the four shots in quick succession."
"Zaminski there as his wife yells 'f'cking get him' 'get his ass'"
"Zaminiski and his wife don't want anything to do it, but the mob is now chasing him"
"HAS HE SHOT ANYBODY SINCE CAR SOURCE 3? NO HE HASN'T.... Mr. Binger must live in fairy tale land."
"He's running and he HASN'T. SHOT. HIS GUN. SINCE. He has thirty bullets... he's NOT indiscriminately shooting" defense lawyer on Rittenhouse
"first strike, Rittenhouse has gone two blocks and he hasn't shot anyone"
coming up on the Anthony Huber part
coming up on the Anthony Huber part
"He's on the ground.... most vulnerable position you can be him. Huber coming in on Kyle"
"Blow to the head"
defense doing a play by play
defense doing a play by play
playing the video again
but we got a full speed version in, this time
but we got a full speed version in, this time
now a slo-mo
WRAP IT UP RICHARDS
WRAP IT UP RICHARDS
NEARING TWO HOURS
my ass is getting so warm from all the sitting and tweeting
JUST CLOSE YOUR ARGUMENT ALREADY PLEASE
JUST CLOSE YOUR ARGUMENT ALREADY PLEASE
c'mon Richards
give me a strong finisher that i can clip into a video
give me a strong finisher that i can clip into a video
defense mentions how Kyle didn't shoot randomly or at the person who put their hands up
goes back to trying to turn himself in
goes back to trying to turn himself in
oh thank GOD he's wrapping up
"No evidence that Kyle Rittenhouse is an active shooter other than Binger calling him that."
"Kyle Rittenhouse shot Mr. Rosenbaum because he was attacking Kyle."
"Hands and feet could cause great bodily harm"
RITTENHOUSE DEFENSE CONCLUDES THEIR CLOSING ARGUMENTS
sorry I'll be back later i just need to step back for a sec
jury deliberation begins
good lord
KYLE SHOULD'VE USED FISTS, says prosecution
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1460385796951879681
🚨🚨Prosecutor James Kraus in closing arguments of Kyle Rittenhouse case argues skateboard can NOT be used as a deadly weapon, jokes that parents should give kids AR-15s as Christmas gifts
🚨Prosecutor James Kraus seriously said (paraphrased)
“everyone takes a beating once in a while. I don’t need a full metal jacket AR-15 because of that” regarding the Kyle Rittenhouse situation.
“everyone takes a beating once in a while. I don’t need a full metal jacket AR-15 because of that” regarding the Kyle Rittenhouse situation.
(HIT THE FOLLOW BUTTON THANKS)
The more I think about today's proceedings the less sane it gets
"Wyoming GOP votes to stop recognizing Cheney as a Republican" apnews.com/article/donald…
sigh
play us out, Drum Cat.
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