+Blair (of Hartford):
First discusses petition (request) to allow St. Teresa of Calcutta, Mother Teresa, to be added to the calendar in the Church in the US, to be celebrated as an optional memorial on Sept 5.
First discusses petition (request) to allow St. Teresa of Calcutta, Mother Teresa, to be added to the calendar in the Church in the US, to be celebrated as an optional memorial on Sept 5.
+Blair:
There is one small thing -- there needs to be some modification to the texts used in the Office of Readings which is not yet ready.
There is one small thing -- there needs to be some modification to the texts used in the Office of Readings which is not yet ready.
If the bishops approve this petition, they have to send it to Rome (CDWS) to be approved.
Requires 2/3 of Latin members.
Requires 2/3 of Latin members.
+Wenski:
Is Calcutta spelled Calcutta or Kolkata, and which one should we use in the liturgical calendar.
+Blair:
The Holy See uses "Calcutta" so we would too.
Is Calcutta spelled Calcutta or Kolkata, and which one should we use in the liturgical calendar.
+Blair:
The Holy See uses "Calcutta" so we would too.
A bishop (didn't catch who): the Spanish virgin of the collect talks about "Santa Teresa, virgin" but there are many. Could we add "of Calcutta."
Also, better to use a word for people who are suffering other than "afligidos," which doesn't connote what we're going for.
Also, better to use a word for people who are suffering other than "afligidos," which doesn't connote what we're going for.
+Blair:
Well, we usually use a short version in the collect.
With regard to the question of "afligido..."
Carmen: This comes from the Missionaries of Charity. I'm not sure we can change it.
Well, we usually use a short version in the collect.
With regard to the question of "afligido..."
Carmen: This comes from the Missionaries of Charity. I'm not sure we can change it.
+Ricken:
I am in favor of this. There is a great devotion to Mother Teresa, and we would be served by adding her to our calendar.
I am in favor of this. There is a great devotion to Mother Teresa, and we would be served by adding her to our calendar.
+( don't know, +Gomez said it kinda quiet and he's across the room)
Why is this an optional memorial instead of obligatory?
+Blair:
That's been our standard practice.
Why is this an optional memorial instead of obligatory?
+Blair:
That's been our standard practice.
Bishops will now vote on whether to petition to the Holy See to add the optional memorial of St. Teresa of Calcutta as an optional memorial in the liturgical calendar of the US
The ayes have it.
213-0-1
213-0-1
Bishops now to vote on Holy Communion and
Worship of the Eucharistic Mystery Outside Mass.
This governs exposition, benediction, and distribution of HC outside of Mass.
Worship of the Eucharistic Mystery Outside Mass.
This governs exposition, benediction, and distribution of HC outside of Mass.
Bps accept amendments proposed for acceptance by the committee by consent motion.
Bishop Seitz asks 1 amendment the committee proposes to reject to be considered on its own.
Other amendments proposed for rejection are rejection by consent motion.
Bishop Seitz asks 1 amendment the committee proposes to reject to be considered on its own.
Other amendments proposed for rejection are rejection by consent motion.
+Seitz wants to discuss proposed amendment that would strike the option for Divine Praises that is not in the editio typica.
He also wants to strike an option that notes a US custom to include Benediction well before reposition of the Blessed Sacrament.
He also wants to strike an option that notes a US custom to include Benediction well before reposition of the Blessed Sacrament.
+Blair:
We are noting the customary practice of the U.S., which is consistent with practices in other countries.
We are noting the customary practice of the U.S., which is consistent with practices in other countries.
JD-
This debate is about the US practice of having benediction, the Divine Praises, and then reposition.
The grey book recognizes this custom. Seitz wants benediction and then reposition.
This debate is about the US practice of having benediction, the Divine Praises, and then reposition.
The grey book recognizes this custom. Seitz wants benediction and then reposition.
By voice vote, bishops asked to vote on amendment. But the conclusion is unclear. So we will have a hand raising vote.
Aye means rejecting the amendment, for procedural reasons.
Aye means rejecting the amendment, for procedural reasons.
The ayes have it, the amendment is rejected.
Sorry for the ambigious explanation. The USCCB used to give us the documents being voted up, which would have helped me explain what's going on. But this year we are not given the draft documents.
Bishops now to vote on the ICEL grey book translation of "Holy Communion and Worship of the Eucharistic Mystery Outside Mass."
The translation passes. We have a new ritual book, everybody -- well, after confirmatio from the CDWDS
Latin bishops will now vote upon the revised English edition of the Order of Christian Initiation of
Adults
Adults
The ayes have it.
Latin bishops will now vote on the Spanish-language version of the same text, the RCIA.
+Nevares, aux of Phoenix:
We should capitlize "cristiana" and "adultos" in "Ritual para la Iniciación cristiana de adultos
Carmen:
No, that would be true in English grammar, but we decided to follow the rules of Spanish grammar for the Spanish text.
We should capitlize "cristiana" and "adultos" in "Ritual para la Iniciación cristiana de adultos
Carmen:
No, that would be true in English grammar, but we decided to follow the rules of Spanish grammar for the Spanish text.
Bishops laugh. a lot.
Bishops now voting on the "Ritual para la Iniciación cristiana de adultos"
The ayes have it
I'm going to a new thread. It's Eucharistic document time.
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