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Nov 19, 2021 11 tweets 5 min read Read on X
Just stating the obvious that THE FIRST CASE WAS NOT IN DECEMBER exposes the mendicant analysis of that recent piece, which feeds of the scraps of data left by China and then props itself up on odd logical shortcuts.
One could hardly think of a more conflicted sentence than this one for instance:

First, if indeed Mr Chen was infected during his hospital trip on the 8th Dec (as he suspect may be the case), then the whole logic implodes.
@MichaelWorobey
It would mean that Jinxia, about 28km away from the market, had community transmission in hospital setting by the 8th.

(by the way our DRASTIC map had these documents and the 16th as likely onset date - and we all made it public ages ago)
@sciencecohen
Secondly even if the 16th Dec is the correct onset date, there is no link whatsoever between that case and the Huanan market.

If you still believe that the 11th Dec is now the first 'official' case, then for the virus to pop up in Jiangxia you need many more cases in the city.
Which means that, again, the logic implodes on the presence of Nov 19 case (further backed by epidemiological and molecular logic, plus obviously the leaked Nov cases in the SCMP).
Secondly, there is a mistake in the piece:
"He travelled north of Huanan Market shortly before his symptoms began".

Actually he says that he went to a scenic area (Mulan Mountain) 90km north of the city at the end of Nov 2019.

@KatherineEban @thedeadhandbook @sciencecohen
And he is clear that he had zero contact with the market.

He basically suspects either an infection when going to the hospital on the 8th (28km away from the market but a few km from the WIV) or an infection on line #2 of the tube.
Both suppose many more cases, inc. Nov. ones.
And the line #2 connects the two possible ground zeros:

- One centered on 'WIV + Wuhan ABSL-3 + PLA Hospital + Hubei Hospital of Zhang Jixian + Wuchang hotspot' with many hints of early cases, including Nov ones.

- One centered on the CDC lab and Huanan Market, with Dec cases.
By the way Zhang Jixian is a CCP member, and was largely used by the CCP as a way to deflect interest away from Ai Fen.

It would be better to reflect on this @MichaelWorobey before mentioning her (and wondering why the hospital is 'not mentioned by name' in papers).
Instead of rushing to conclusions, please get in touch, share your ideas, discuss them @MichaelWorobey.

I really don't care if you think that a research-related accident is only 20%.
As long that we agree that it is anywhere between 20% and 80% we can all work better together.

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1/8 Nod (@nizzaneela) has updated his paper demolishing Pekar et al's claim of 'two introductions'.

v3 is more accessible, same brutal conclusion: the supposed support for two spillovers is an artefact of rigged hypothesis testing.

arxiv.org/html/2502.2007…Image
2/8 Quick recap: Pekar et al claimed a Bayes Factor of 60 for two introductions.

After three major errors were found (including a bad cut-and-paste!), it dropped to 4, just at the noise level border. Image
3/8 Nod later showed that the 4 is still wrong.

The one-introduction model was tested against stricter conditions than the two-introduction model, which is basic statistical malpractice.

Under the same conditions, the Bayes factor is <0.25.
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Worobey is working on a paper showing that the epicenter is a taberna close to the lab.
Holmes has a photo of a well-wined evening there, which he will turn into a paper too.

Places like that are clear zoonotic disasters in the making. Image
All [ASF] viruses currently circulating in the Member States belong to genetic groups 2-28 and not to the new genetic group 29 to which the virus causing the outbreak in the province of Barcelona belongs - very similar to genetic group 1 that circulated in Georgia in 2007.
mapa.gob.es/es/prensa/ulti…Image
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Nov 16, 2025
Good luck to the Daszak in suing EHA (through its board of directors) for a total of $4mln.

He is a debarred fraud, likely linked to one of the most destructive events of the last 100 years, who racked millions at EHA, and enjoyed the high life in its colonial revival villa in upstate NY, not far from his favourite ski fields.
But, wait, they were 'incredibly supportive of Peter'. They knew that 'Peter [was] a great scientist, a deeply honest man', etc.

Sure. And pigs fly. Image
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Nov 6, 2025
1/24 🚨 New insights into #COVID19Origins! 🔍 In this thread, I reveal previously unreported key aspects:

1️⃣ Direct connections between the CIA and virologist Ralph Baric in U.S.-China virology cooperation and monitoring. 🕵️‍♂️🇨🇳 @SenRandPaul

2️⃣ The complete ODNI BSEG composition as of Sep 2020—never published before.Image
2/24 Context:

The BSEG, est. 2006, is an advisory panel designed to assist U.S. intelligence on biological threats, incl. viruses and biosafety. 🦠

🔒 Meetings are classified and managed by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. @thackerpd Image
3/24 BSEG stands for Biological Sciences Experts Group.

3️⃣ Additional context on early briefings, biosafety concerns, and international collaborations.

Let's explore! 👇
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DRASTIC Working Notes:
Findings from EHA documents made public by Congress in December 2024.

1️⃣ How the folder was made public:
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@RogerPielkeJr Image
2️⃣ The folder content: Image
3️⃣ Our quick summary: Image
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@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep Your link does not work unfortunately. Can you give one that works?
Quite a few foundations there (Stiftungen).
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep - Schweizerische Eidgenossenschat, Bundesamt für Kultur (BAK) (some funding if 10% is shot in Switzerland)
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- Stiftung Volkart
- UBS Kulturstiftung
- Stiftung Corymbo
- Ernst Göhner Stiftung
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep Zürcher Filmstiftung
CHF 60,000 to develop the project, on 16Mar 2021:
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