This is the second part of the morning session on Day 2 of Lorna Young (LY) v Manchester City Council (MCC), held at Manchester Employment Tribunal.
AM Apologies. I have one more page around this time - a response from Nick McMillan, so sorry to hear etc. So there was a response from HR
LY Nick and I go back a long way. He rang me although I couldn't answer. I saw that email.
AM Do you know why he rang you
LY Assume Jane contacted him, and they and James Binks were involved when call made.
AM Sarah will speak for herself but my understanding is that Sarah was unaware of these events. She continued, interviewed Barry, Sharmila, Demi. [to doc, interview with Demi]
We've rejoined.
AM - paras 41 of SN's WS, she talks abt emails recd. She was out of office and picked up on 22 Nov. Trib will hear that out of offcie included 17 Nov. Came back day you met with her. You will have recd an out of office.
LY I don't recall that.
AM - quotes from LY 's email to SN re scope of Ix. Another email 21/11 and make a correction to something abt scope. Now , well, I'm telling you and Miss N will tell you she wasn't in office until 22 NOv. So not surprisng o substaive response is it?
LY (missed)
We will shortly be reporting at 2pm on the Manchester Employment Tribunal covering Lorna Young (LY) vs Manchester City Council (MCC).
LY is gender critical and Catholic and was formerly Equality Team Manager at MCC. She was dismissed from this role due to her social media content.
Panel members must have already read the case papers as they had no reading time today. Here's this morning's reporting. Lorna Young has started giving evidence.
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We will shortly be live tweeting from Manchester Employment Tribunal covering Lorna Young (LY) vs Manchester City Council (MCC).
LY is gender critical and Catholic and was formerly Equality Team Manager at MCC. She was dismissed from this role due to her social media content.
LY claims:
(a) Direct discrimination because of religion or belief;
(b) Harassment related to religion or belief;
(c) Discrimination arising from disability;
(d) Harassment related to disibility;
(e) Unfair dismissal.
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We report what we hear in good faith but do not provide a transcript of proceedings.
We resume.
J - I want to go back to parts of C's pleaded case. What is the act of indirect discrimination against the C and where do we see it.
NC - I say it is the state of affairs, that the R has adopted GI as it's institutional belief.
J - what is the act of indirect discrim
NC - I want to go to para 22, a person discriminates against another if it applies to her which is a PCP that is discriminatory, whether it is discriminatory is a matter of law. It applies it as an ongoing state of affairs. It is applies or would be applied to all members of
We expect to be reporting this morning from 10 am on a preliminary hearing in MacDonald (C) vs Public and Commercial Services Union (R). The R is seeking to strike out significant portions of C's claim.
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