🚨Grenfell morning round-up🚨
Pretty explosive evidence this morning as Danny Cotton, former London Fire Brigade Commissioner, answered questions around how aware the organisation was about growing building safety issues and the LFB's preparedness to tackle them. Thread🧵
Evidence began with a focus on an analysis piece that was shared between LFB directors, including Ms Cotton, about a cladding fire in Dubai.

The article included a line that seemed to indicate that similar fires couldn’t happen in the UK because of stricter building regs
QC Millett probed Ms Cotton, who was LFB operational assurance head at the time, on how aware she was of the issues around the growing prevalence of external wall fires in UK. She said that she was not and that it was the LFB’s 'fire safety' unit which was responsible for this
She added that the 'fire safety often worked in a ‘silo’ and was not as well connected to other parts of the LFB as it should have been
Focus then turned onto the comments below the article. One comment took issue with the assumption in the article that UK building regs were strong enough to avert a similar disaster at home. It stated👇
Perhaps even more worringly, this commenter suggested that there were ‘a number of large schemes being 'incorrectly specified and constructed’ on the back of misinterpretations of what ‘class 0’ meant
Ms Cotton said discussed the article with colleagues but says that she was not aware of the frequency of issues found in the UK. When asked if anyone in the LFB team had given her assurances that a similar fire couldn’t happen in the UK because of regs, she said ‘no’
Counsel Millet then turned to this document written in in August 2016 by the LFB’s head of regulatory enforcement.

It outlined the growing issues that his team was finding with poor compartmentation in resi buildings in London.

Ms Cotton said she had never seen the document
The report included crucial information and warnings about the prevalence of compartmentation issues. It explained how this could result in fire spread into other dwellings and overwhelm residents and firefighters. It said there was a particular concern around vulnerable persons
The report pulled out a number of examples in which compartmentation failures had led to increased firespread, including Lakanal (where six people died), Pacific Wharf in Rotherhithe and other lower profile fires
It concluded by highlighting that these issues were growing in prevalence and that these were posing a ‘high risk’ to public safety.

It also stated that it was the belief of the LFB that the fire risk assessment (FRA) processes were inadequate and not spotting these issues
When asked directly why none of this information was passed on to fire crews to help in tackling fires, Ms Cotton said that she didn’t know, as she had never been shown the info. She added that often the fire safety team did not link up effectively with the operation team
Millet then asked: “Why did the LFB not send message to crews telling them of growing concerns that stay put may be inappropriate in some the buildings, and it may be required to evacuate residents in challenging environments?’

She said: “I don’t have the answer for that”.
Attention then turned to a letter sent by the LFB to Gavin Barwell, who was the then housing minister, in which it requested a meeting to discuss strong concerns around the quality of housing construction in London and more keenly the issues around compartmentation in new builds
Here is that letter👇which includes concerns around contractor competency and how this drive compartmentation deficiencies.

Important to point out that nearly every l'holder you speak to embroiled in the building safety scandal is facing some form of compartmentation issue
In the letter the LFB state that they are on average identifying at least one building every month with significant compartmentation deficiencies but that it was safe to assume that there are “many other cases”
This letter was sent when Ms Cotton had just become commissioner. She said that it was only just before this letter was sent (April 2017) that she had become aware of the frequency of compartmentation issues. She said she couldn't remember if she met Barwell after it was sent
When asked if this prompted her to take steps to ensure that firefighters were given better training to combat potential compartmentation issues, she said she didn’t. Adding that it was an ‘exceptionally busy time’, dealing with some high-profile terrorist attacks
Millet then pulled up another letter sent by the LFB, this time to Conservative MP Ben Gummer.

It was sent ahead of the publication of the Conservative manifesto for the 2017 election, which took place just before the Grenfell Tower fire
The LFB set out a number of issues in terms of housing and put forward several recommendations to be put in the manifesto. This included growing concerns about the quality of construction and widespread compartmentation deficiencies that threatened its stay put policy
This letter was sent to all the major parties. Reflecting on the letter, Ms Cotton said she had no recollection of it. She was then presented with an email from the LFB public affairs head, requesting her to sign it off
Responding to this Ms Cotton said that she would have signed it but had no recollection of the specific document as she had between ’20 to 30 letters’ coming in front of her every week in her new role as LFB commissioner
Morning ended with Cotton being asked if she had changed her view on the preparedness of LFB to tackle Grenfell since she first gave evidence in 2018

(She famously said in '18 that the fire was as foreseeable as “space shuttle landing on the Shard”)

She responded like this👇
And when asked to identify anything she should have done during her time at the LFB to better equip incident commanders at the Grenfell fire, she said👇

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Jack Simpson

Jack Simpson Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @JSimpsonjourno

25 Nov
Important revelations from this morning's Grenfell Tower Inquiry.

The London Fire Brigade sent the Conservative Party (and all other parties) a letter outlining concerns with the quality of resi construction and widespread compartmentation deficiencies that threatened stay put
A similar letter was also sent to Gavin Barwell, the then housing minister, in April 2017 which highlighted concerns around 'contractor competency' when it came to residential construction and how this affected compartmentation deficiencies
This is important because....
1) The Grenfell Tower experienced a 'total failure of compartmentation' on the night of the fire, and despite this a stay put policy remained in place
Read 5 tweets
24 Nov
📰Today’s @insidehousing headlines📰
👉'Pointy stick of regulation will not fix social housing' bit.ly/3HQ87Jv
👉Evacuated Clarion tenants could wait a year for new homes bit.ly/3CIkZOl
👉Two large G15 landlords breach rent standard bit.ly/3CNMKFb
@insidehousing It would appear the stamp duty holiday has had a significant impact already on the number of houses being bought. Latest HMRC figures have found the volume of house sales fell by 52% in October, in what is being called the most subdued October in a decade theguardian.com/business/2021/…
@insidehousing Good analysis in here about the move towards longer term mortgages. With 158 different 10-year+ products on the market, there is growing appetite. After one mortgage firm launched a 40-year fixed rate policy, will others will follow suit? bbc.co.uk/news/business-…
Read 7 tweets
23 Nov
📰Today’s @insidehousing headlines📰
👉Hyde appoints banking MD as new CEO – bit.ly/3DXfUCU
👉Smoke alarms to become mandatory in social homes – bit.ly/3FFUJFZ
👉EWS crisis caused by 'overreaction' to gov guidance - bit.ly/3cJ8Yxv
@insidehousing How much did homebuyers benefit from the stamp duty cut? The results are in, and it was a huge £6bn.
And who were the beneficiaries? Well, those in high price areas, with half of those to receive the benefit buying homes worth more than £500k. ft.com/content/c6fe85…
@insidehousing Y'day saw Labour and Plaid Cymru reach a co-op deal for the next three years. While plans for a national contractor was eye-catching, @thetelegraph highlights an additional cost that could hit second homeowners after proposed council tax changes
telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/2…
Read 5 tweets
22 Nov
I'm going to be covering this session 👇 this afternoon, looking at the Building Safety Bill. Follow me for any updates
This afternoon we hear from Ken Knight, the chair of DLUHC's independent fire expert panel, and Dame Judith Hackitt, chair of post-Grenfell independent fire safety review, and now chair of Industry Safety Steering Group and board overseeing creation of Building Safety Regulator Image
Dame Hackitt says it is important the whole of the industry adopts new approach. Says early adopters show it is possible to make these changes but there are too many ‘hangers back’
Read 25 tweets
4 Aug
EWS latest: Government has called for all EWS checks on buildings under 18m where remediation has been recommended to now be reviewed.

Expert advice says result should be changed if it is felt initial judgement is not “proportionate or cost effective”.
insidehousing.co.uk/news/governmen…
Is in response to RICS stating that buildings with EWS are still likely require remediation even after gov announcement. RICs says valuers must take into account all known information that would affect a value.Or in other words, you can’t wish away an EWS.
insidehousing.co.uk/news/buildings…
The gov has advised that the reviews should be carried out by competent professionals. I've asked what qualifications ‘competent professionals’ will need. Waiting on a response.

If anything like the current EWS rules, do we not face just replaying the last 18 months?
Read 11 tweets
2 Aug
Just read this excellent @FT investigation. Service charge transparency is a huge issue for leaseholders. I've spoken to dozens of flat owners in recent years who have had to pay towards a lift they cannot use, a gym they cannot access, or a concierge service that doesn't exist.
@FT Have often wanted to try and pull together a list of the most random/ridiculous things listed in people's service charge breakdowns. Things like this👇. If anyone has any particularly bizarre things they have been charged for, drop me a DM. insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/hous…
@FT There are definitely issues with both social housing landlords and private landlords/management companies. From my experience it does often seem harder for leaseholders to challenge private companies over charges. But this is just from those leaseholders that I have spoken too.
Read 4 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(