Every time you add a dose of vax
from 1 to 2
2 to 3
3 to 4

you have some increased risk of myocarditis leading to hospitalization (for sure)

& possibly, some lower risk of being very sick with covid

How do we weigh these?
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Of course good vaccine approvals occur when:

the reduction in risk of bad covid outcomes from getting 1 more dose is
> (Greater than)
the risk of bad vaccine outcomes from getting 1 more dose

This must be re-calculated with each dose
There is uncertainty around both estimates

We know the rate of myocarditis after dose 2 in these ages (1 in 5-10k), but not dose 3

We know the risk of hospitalization at these ages among unvaccinated

That risk falls with 1 dose; it falls a bit more with 2
How much more does the risk of bad covid outcomes fall with a 3rd dose?

is this greater than the risk of myocarditis leading to hospitalization with 3 rd dose?

Of course, the question is easy for an 85 year old!
But when you get to a 12 - 30 year old (particularly boy) its hard
Its hard because the risk to a vaccinated young person is already so low!

How much lower can it go!?

Myocarditis meanwhile has no theoretical ceiling.
The goal of vaccine regulation is to demand studies that can answer the question.

A large randomized trial is such a study.

Yes, they are costly, but Pfizer has plenty of funds

Yes, they require large sample size, but many in America are eager to enroll
No, they don't take as long as you think, when enrollment is brisk and you are worried the outcome will occur often.

Of course, that should be the regulatory standard

Remember: the top 2 FDA officials in Vax have resigned over booster pressure!

That is insane btw
What about the benefit for mild infections?

Consider that no number of doses will totally prevent you from having cold and flu symptoms at some point in the future
What about the benefit of boosting these ages on other age groups?

The answer is: that is not much of a consideration in regulatory science because it is TOO SPECULATORY

Remember all those people who modeled Covid spread and got it right...

Remember them?

Exactly
As long as it is so uncertain, the decision must be made solely on the basis of what is best for those actually getting the shot.

If the FDA takes this action it will be a total gamble

it won't be the first one.

But each of these gambles is dangerous.
If a future scientist -- one who isn't panicked by reading twitter -- performs a study that shows conclusively that some age (probably in the boy 12 to 30 range) got an extra dose of vax with a net harm profile

You will do serious damage to trust in vaccines for a generation.
That damage will be catastrophic.

The reason many of us have been writing on this issue for months is that this is a existential threat to vaccination programs.

medpagetoday.com/opinion/second…
If any additional dose in any age is net deleterious, you have a problem.

The top 2 FDA officials have resigned b/c they do not like these gambles.

As someone who has studied drug policy for a decade, neither do I

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All these people πŸ‘‡ are lying about the content of my piece & tagging my employer @UCSFHospitals

My piece which anyone can read: vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/how-democrac…

Is about a future scenario where pandemic precedents may subvert democracy

Its not a Holocaust analogy

Why do they lie?🧡
The piece clearly states it is not about the present, but the future

A series of events that might happen, but has not yet occurred....
It describes 7 key factors which are vulnerabilities in our pandemic response where democracy can be threatened in the future

this is more likely to come from the counter party (i.e. the group that opposed these things this time)
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Just like the examples in this article, celebrating that working class people are being fired over vaccine mandates is not my idea of progressivism

Losing a job in America is a serious punishment and many of these people worked hard for many years...

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... many of these people who are losing their jobs right now risk their own personal safety to work in the hospital before there was a vaccine. When you needed them.

These people don't disappear from America either, and their fate is tied to all our fate.
Pressuring people to get vaccinated will increase vaccination rate some fraction and that will provide some marginal extra protection to people who've already chosen to be vaccinated, but it will also lead to firings and that will provide negative countervailing results..
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28 Sep
My NEW op-ed is out in @usnews!
Mandating 12-18 year old kids get 2 doses of COVID19 vaccine & throwing them out of school if they don't is one of the most regressive, dangerous, and misguided policies in recent years, and I condemn it

Some thoughts 🧡
usnews.com/opinion/articl…
1. How can LA mandate 2 doses for boys aged 12 to 22 when our peer nations do not support 2 doses, given risk of myocarditis?

Same science
Same data
Mandate 2 vs. optional 1?
You can't use power of mandate for science that is not settled
2. The current policies are so restrictive that you can't even space the doses out to 12 weeks, as Norway is attempting to lower risk of myocarditis.

Why is there no flexibility in these policies?
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24 Sep
The CDC director, a political appointee, siding with the President, & his pre-ordained plan, against the advice of the ACIP advisors, with 0 RCTs measuring clinical outcomes & no idea of adverse events is not "doing one's job" it is politics > science, precisely what we feared 🧡
The process that led up to Pfizer booster is someday going to be seen as what many dreaded during the Trump administration.

The White House decided during the week of Sept 20, boosters will be made available, and all gears of drug regulation made it happen
Consider the 24 year old male health care aid living in Seattle who received 2 doses of Pfizer vax, and is now granted a path to take dose 3.

Can any medical expert answer 2 questions:
Do the benefits exceed the harms to this individual?
Is he a 'safer' employee?
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