I’m going to do a “live-read” of the SCOTUS transcript in today’s Cummings case. @adams_hurta and I wrote an amicus in this matter, and I’m interested. supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/2…
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The question presented is, basically, can you recover emotional distress damages in some kinds of civil rights cases – for complicated reasons, some of these cases are analyzed by whether the remedy sought would have been available in contract law. /2
Justice Thomas comes out of the gate with that question - if we don’t think you could get emotional distress damages under traditional contract common law, do you have some other argument? /3
There’s an interesting exchange here about how close the analogy to an old contract case has to be before it works for these purposes. /4
J Sotomayor jumps in here to help focus counsel on Justice Kavanaugh’s question, which is, “the other statutes that allow emotional distress damages have caps, but this wouldn’t, isn’t that bad?” /5
Justice Alito presses on how much money the plaintiff wants for emotional distress /6
Justice Sotomayor again wants to help a justice she perceives as on the other side get their answer. /7
That’s us! /8
Colleen Roh Sinzdak for the US is pressed by Roberts on his pet question: what if there’s 1 or 3 or 5 cases allowing emotional distress damages, is that good enough?
Random note to say I like the notion of boiling many oceans. I usually say boiling the ocean, but of course there is more than one, so Colleen is quite right.
Here, we come back to an important question, which is what are the implicit limits keeping damages low in many emotional distress cases?
This is a good exchange between Justice Kagan and @KannonShanmugam about how a defendant would know they are potentially liable. But also note the elegant way Kannon handles “saying the thing I need to say before answering.” —> “let me get the necessary caveat out of the way”
I appreciate how Barrett often says what she’s actually thinking. She’s is very often asking real questions. (There are these innkeeper cases where emotional distress damages are awarded)
Interesting exchange here where Justice Kavanaugh suggests he at least somewhat agrees with Justice Barrett in the previous tweet
Another very interesting question from Justice Barrett - “look, people have been giving emotional distress damages for many years, why hasn’t this come up before”
The response is, among other things, to dispute that distress damages have been handed out for decades.
Justice Kavanaugh is very focused on this analogy to other discrimination statutes - if you can get emotional distress damages in Title VII, why not in the implied cause of action in these spending clause cases?
Interesting question from Justice Kagan - why don’t we just sort of tell courts these damages should be small?
Well, that’s it. Very interesting argument. Pretty much what I would have expected in terms of questions and tone.
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Re: Judge Cannon - in civil cases, we normally do jury instructions at the end of the trial. Is criminal different?
Again, I think she's wrong not to sort out the mess now, but there's a lot of magic thinking in the articles I'm reading about how she's behaving.
The reason it's unusual here is that the former President is being prosecuted. But I've got to assume in 99.99% of other cases the charge conference is after the close of evidence.
One time, I had a case where the judge up and wrote some jury instructions 2/
Before trial and read them to the jury, but he said they were preliminary and he would change them after taking argument.
Otherwise it's at the end. And yes, this often involves major decisions (like the rule of law that governs the case).
Unless I'm interrupted by a call, I am going to take the time to live-tweet the SB4 stay argument this morning at CA5 at 10 am.
For those new to CA5 and its characters: the panel is Chief Judge Richman, Judge Andrew Oldham, and Judge Irma Ramirez, the newest judge. 1/
For those who don't know, Chief Judge Richman has been on the Court for some time. You may know her as Priscilla R. Owen, her name until recently (she changed her name upon marrying Chief Justice Nathan Hecht of Texas). She will be the voice you hear presiding. /2
J. Oldham is a Trump appointee and former staffer for Governor Abbott (I think - unless it was Paxton). As I noted yesterday, he has twice voted for Texas's border policies, plus he dissented from the Court's decision to block SB4 last night. So I assume his mind is made up. /3
So I think the point that Trump doesn’t need to bond to appeal has been made, so let me quickly address one other thing: unless someone shows me otherwise, the $450,000,000 judgment is enforceable right now (realistically, Monday) 1/
Yes, Trump has 30 days to appeal, that’s true. /2
And it’s also true that under CPLR 5519, the stay if he gets a bond is effective upon filing of the notice of appeal /3
Again, I do not understand why people are having such trouble getting this, but it is absolutely not true that Trump has to pay the judgment or bond the judgment or do anything to the judgment to appeal.
Yes, it is likely going to be very hard for Trump to bond $450,000,000, I agree. But he can still appeal.
All an appellate bond does is prevent the plaintiff from executing on the judgment during the appeal. That's it. It has nothing to do with whether you are allowed to appeal.
Because those orders have this strategic element, he says, men are sometimes subject to unwarranted restraining orders (and thus deprived of their "first class" right to arms /2
And, he adds, because judges feel compelled to issue "mutual" protective orders, women are deprived of the guns they need to fight abusers. Indeed, abusers might invoke 922(g)(8) to "taunt" and "subdue" their victims.