The last word should be Alameda Point but other wise a good transcript of city staff’s analysis of why all units can’t be placed at AP #alamtg
Even though some members of the public are using a “no” vote on this housing element item showing they literally have no clue about this process, the Housing Element must be adopted and must be certified by the state. #alamtg
OGC member Carmen Reid wants Alameda to pass an emergency ordinance so that Alamedans can choose how to respond to SB 9. This makes 0 sense at all. #alamtg
Speaker Dewitt talks about an affordable housing overlay and I think that’s perfect for Alameda’s high resource areas #alamtg
Speaker Mathison using language of activists to hide the underlying NIMBYism of her comments. #alamtg
Was on the move so couldn’t tweet but wanted to highlight a speaker who is banking on the Triumvirate or whatever ballot initiative to rid us completely of the pesky RHNA thing altogether. #alamtg
We have the first “building housing that people can actually afford” to oppose building in general and I hope this person is on the front lines of a billion dollar bond to build all affordable housing only. 5400 units at $800K per unit. #alamtg
Why do people think that all NEW housing should be priced at below market rate if it's not explicitly subsidized? #alamtg
Speaker saying that R2 - R6 zones are not exclusionary because he sees a lot of people of "ethnicities" walking into houses in these zones. Also he sees lot of mailboxes. He says they're probably the most affordable rental but has done no research on this #alamtg
A reminder to all the "we need to put this at shopping centers". Here's what @tonydaysog said last December #alamtg laurendo.wordpress.com/2020/12/04/ris…
Speaker says that a bunch of people he met didn't know about this meeting nor about the Housing Element in general. This, personally, sounds like a problem of people not giving a shit which is pretty typical. #alamtg
Like we've literally been talking about the RHNA and Housing Element for the past year and a half. Other than putting a note in every toilet paper roll about this, if people aren't going to care they aren't going to care. #alamtg
There are so many important issues that come before the City Council, it's always shocking to me that some people use their first time at the podium to advocate excluding people from their backyards. Just staggeringly depressing. #alamtg
Hi lady speaker, you can't rezone something back to recreation which was never zoned that in the first place. But Happy Hanukkah anyway. #alamtg
Bruh, if I were PB member Ron Curtis I'd be super nervous about getting some nasty gram from the Ron Cowan companies because whatever he "attested" to about Cowan Cos not paying into some sort of assessment is being used as gospel fact by Club boosters #alamtg
Some speaker thought he could sign back on and use his leftover 10 seconds. #alamtg
Are people like not able to hear when Andrew Thomas says we can't put all the units at Alameda Point or is that frequency too high for them that they can't hear it? #alamtg
This is a new tactic, someone is saying that because people in Alameda Co are overweight we shouldn't be removing "recreational spaces" aka Harbor Bay Club. She is not saying that we should be building densely so that people can walk or bike rather than sit in cars #alamtg
Toddler dad speaker says that parks are more fun with more people and supports plan to open up Alameda to more people who can walk to parks just like he can #alamtg
Someone just said to "vote no" on this massive up zoning and these are the rubes that get preyed on by people who should know better about what we MUST do as a City to certify our Housing Element but they use them as useful warm bodies to say angry things #alamtg
City staff says there are no plans to rezone Harbor Bay Club right now because, I'm paraphrasing here, staff doesn't need to deal with that level of Bay Farm shit right now in addition to everything else. #alamtg
City staff is pointing out that those super expensive market rate houses are paying for the subsidized low income housing units and if people want to not have the expensive houses then we'll need to tax ourselves to pay for it. #alamtg
Can we crowd source some hot tea with lemon for Andrew Thomas right now. Get the man a lozenge. #alamtg
City staff says that there is an example of someone buying a bunch of houses with intent to tear down and build up but that was financially INFEASIBLE so, like, not a realistic concern #alamtg
City staff points out the conundrum that Alameda is in. A/26 is in conflict with state law and leaving it in tact will render the Housing Element out of compliance but to retain local control over land use decisions we must have complaint Housing Element #alamtg
City Manager is discussing housing cap at Alameda Point, because of inflation the penalty cost is now at $100K per market rate unit over the cap. Low income housing is not included in the cap. #alamtg
Councilmember @tonydaysog trying to split hairs about how A/26 is unenforceable saying that HCD doesn't get to make that decision; a court does. HCD gets to determine the certification of the Housing Element so, like, yeah, they do get to make that call. Duh. #alamtg
Councilmember Trish Spencer wants the Housing Element to specifically reference that Harbor Bay Club has only been used for recreation and this is not an appropriate use for the Housing Element. #alamtg
City Attorney recommends to talk about this during the General Plan discussion and I don't think the owners of the Harbor Bay Club is going to be happy if this gets enshrined in the General Plan which, arguably, be a taking. #alamtg
Trish Spencer wants to remind you that she is Mexican American and that because there are less white people than all the people of color combined in Alameda that there's no way Alameda has been or is racist. #alamtg
Those who refuse to address the past historic wrongs will always repeat them. Those who refuse to acknowledge that the harm continues to Alameda's Black and brown communities will perpetuate the harm. #alamtg
Spencer is now showing slides about earthquake vulnerability. Mentions landfill & I'll point out that Spencer's supporters are asking to load housing on South Shore which is ALL fill. Staff says most stable areas are R-1 zones which speakers said they don't want touched #alamtg
Staff also points out that new housing is all built to earthquakes standards and it's the old housing at risk in an earthquake. I have a new house, it's on post tension slab. It's probably going to withstand and earthquake. #alamtg
Now she's moving on to tsunamis because these arguments about liquefaction contradicts the people who don't want to up zone R-1 through R-6. T. Spencer is talking about evacuation and, like what does she envision is going to happen in a tsunami? #alamtg
They're taking a break now, but just to circle back on the issue of demographics in Alameda. California in general is a turning to a majority minority state if it's not already there. There's no prize for Alameda matching that trend. #alamtg
Certainly there is nothing that Alameda has explicitly done to encourage any sort of diversity in Alameda. For too long Alameda has had a regional reputation about being hostile to non white people. #alamtg
Heck this city with like 30% Asian people isn't even Asian enough to get an Asian supermarket so miss me with the "we're so diverse." When Ranch 99 moves into the Mariner Square Luckys then we'll revisit this massive diversity some white people think exists in Alameda #alamtg
#Alameda is still way whiter than our closest neighbors and Alameda Co in general. #alamtg
And white people are still the majority over all other races in Alameda. #alamtg
Apparently the frequency Andrew Thomas speaks in when he talks about AFFH is too high for @tonydaysog to hear as well. He’s beating the “put it all at Alameda Point” drum #alamtg
He’s throwing the West End under the bus too saying green space next to Bayport, Neptune Park, Main Street ferry terminal. @tonydaysog really repping his Bay Farm constituents. #alamtg
I’ll point out that he says to throw all the units at Alameda Point to “save our neighborhoods” essentially saying that Alameda Point residents are not neighborhoods worth saving. #alamtg
Whatever @tonydaysog is saying is essentially not going to get us a certified Housing Element so he should just say right now he’s willing to risk it all to protect the property values of the already wealthy and comfortable #alamtg
CM @JKW4Alameda saying what needs to be said. @tonydaysog’s west end only plan is not going to cut it with HCD and so he’s advocating for non compliance and if that’s the will of the majority of the Council they should ask a court now if A/26 can stand. #alamtg
Trish Spencer wants to put housing at the business parks because a bunch of business owners funded Measure Z. The land wasn’t appropriate for the new Harbor Bay Club because of airplane noise but homes? No problem! #alamtg
CM @Malia_Vella points to the hypocrisy of arguments being levied against the current Housing element plan and the contradictions being leveled in order to not do anything. #alamtg
Says she wants to see an equitable distribution across the city and not concentrated in the West End and Alameda Point. #alamtg
Mayor subtweets some tenants of city owned properties who are in rent arrears but are trying to keep others from being housed. #alamtg
I feel like this has something to do with scattered sites project at Big Whites. #alamtg
Trish Spencer says she’s trying to bring solutions and again wants to put housing at Harbor Bay Business Park. I hope she starts those discussions with the Port of Oakland. #alamtg
Otherwise she’s just being petty and not trying to actually create any real solutions. #alamtg
Also I’m not 100% sure Trish Spencer actually listens to staff because she asked about an AP update and didn’t want to wait until 2025 but was reminded by the Mayor that the City Manager said he would provide an update in December #alamtg
Trish Spencer: I spent valuable time with the City Manager to just go over grammatical and typographical errors did those get included? #alamtg
I mean this lady literally has zero substance and is all just about style. #alamtg
Trish Spencer is now taking up the cause of the Harbor Bay Club and wants it to only be used for recreation. But really they only want housing to be forbidden on the site. #alamtg
To zone it to open space will require the city to take it over and run the club as a city entity. Changing the zoning with taking it over would probably be a taking and trigger a lawsuit. #alamtg
Staff is speaking very carefully and using their words strategically. This is a fraught topic. #alamtg
Just so we’re keeping track. We’ve spent 20 minutes of discussion time JUST on the issue of the Harbor Bay Club and trying to forbid residential from being built there. #alamtg
City staff is saying that there will be an application coming in the future to rebuild the Harbor Bay Club, reduce the number of tennis courts, and build housing to help subsidize the reconstruction of club. And buy people membership while club is being rebuilt. #alamtg
City staff says some residents still don’t want a new club if it includes housing. Council will need to limit this by ordinance by casting commercial uses wide in order to limit housing. Also will have to upzone housing elsewhere because of state law on reducing intensity #alamtg
Speaker @zbowling points out that rezoning of Harbor Bay Club wasn’t noticed so that’s probably problematic. I’m sure the Harbor Bay Club owners would like an opportunity to chime in and send some lawyers. #alamtg
Is there anyone more entitled than a Bay Farm resident who thinks they’re owed the ability to dictate what the owners of the Harbor Bay Club can do with its property? #alamtg
Like the Harbor Bay Club owners could just close the club tomorrow and put in an application to build a hotel and I think that would be an allowable use by right. #alamtg
This speaker is asking why Harbor Bay Club has same zoning as Shopping Center and clearly he didn’t listen when staff said there’s no zoning that just allows health clubs. #alamtg
Harbor Bay Club could build a hotel, business college, Mortuaries, Taverns, Pawn shops, Self-operated laundries #alamtg
So what happens if the HBC folks put in an application before the new general plan with the commercial-recreational designation is in place? #alamtg
CM @tonydaysog takes the coward way out and declines on voting to certify the General Plan EIR. What is the point of this person? #alamtg
Both @tonydaysog and Trish Spencer vote against doing basic business and certify the General Plan EIR #alamtg
CM Trish Spencer makes a motion to move commercial recreation zoning under parks and wildlife which would prohibit residential and commercial would need to enhance use. @tonydaysog provides the 2nd #alamtg
Staff thinks they MAY be able to defend against a takings claim since there is a wide range of commercial uses still available under this proposed motion. #alamtg
Looks like Trish Spencer doesn’t even have @tonydaysog’s vote. He may be willing to fight HCD and the State of California but not Ron Cowan’s Co. #alamtg
Staff says if an application is put in tomorrow for residential there would still be a process to determine suitability of residential for the site. #alamtg
Trish Spencer is withdrawing her motion. And now just wants to move commercial residential under parks and wildlife. #alamtg
VM @Malia_Vella asks what the intent if this move is. And points out that site is privately owned while open space (zoning under parks and wildlife) is publicly owned. Does this signal an intent from City to take the site. #alamtg
CM @JKW4Alameda says that we have a process via Housing Element to determine housing suitability on parcels and proposes a substitute motion to use that process, 2nd by @Malia_Vella #alamtg
CM @tonydaysog argues with the City Clerk about rules of order because he thinks he knows better than the person whose job is to understand the process of open government and running meetings. #alamtg
Substitute motion passes 3-2 with @tonydaysog changing his abstention vote to a no vote because nothing matters. #alamtg
Sometimes I feel like city council should be forced to vote first because they’ve spent hours on this item and listened to every pet issue that sprung into Trish Spencer’s head and she still refused to vote for the General Plan. #alamtg
And @tonydaysog still owes the Clerk an apology for second guessing and undermining her expertise. #alamtg

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Just so we're clear this is the "green space next to Bayport" that @tonydaysog wants to use for residential zoning rather than have any East End neighborhood upzone. The parcel fronts on one of the few 35 mph roads in Alameda. #alamtg
@tonydaysog This is Neptune Park, also a @tonydaysog suggestion to avoid burdening the East End. It's the green space used by senior citizens living at Independence Plaza and also sits right next to Alameda's sole overpass which cars shoot out of the tube at speed around 45 mph. #alamtg
This is the Main Street ferry which is still being actively used providing short hop service to Oakland & also is the terminal for Giants and Warriors games. I guess @tonydaysog would rather people drive through the tube to ensure that Bay Farm neighborhoods are "saved" #alamtg
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