Hello from Judge Carl Nichols' virtual courtroom, where a status hearing is about to start in the criminal contempt case against Steve Bannon. On last night's status report, which indicated quite a big gap in how both sides would like to proceed:
Here's the dial-in info for Nichols:
Toll Free Number: 877-873-8017
Access Code: 8692421
They're starting with a discussion of what will be covered by a protective order as far as restrictions on how the parties can use evidence in the case and what they can make public and when
Bannon's lawyer Evan Corcoran is pushing back on the govt's request to limit how non-sensitive docs are used; govt wants to limit use to court proceedings, not allow total public disclosure. Nichols asks the govt to explain why those limits are needed...
...AUSA explains they're okay with Bannon using docs in the case, but given his/his lawyer's comments about wanting to share materials, make the case "hell" for those involved, limits are needed: "This case should be decided in the courtroom...not in the media"
Bannon's lawyers are arguing there's public interest in seeing how this case was handled, disputes their intent to litigate this in the media (they seem to be threading a needle here, since they're asking for freedom to share docs), says it raises complex constitutional issues
Dispute has come down to two categories of docs — law enforcement reports of witness interviews and internal Jan. 6 committee staff comms. Govt says they're okay with these being filed on the public docket, but unrestricted public release risks interfering with witnesses
Nichols is going to take this all under advisement and issue a protective order later
The judge moves on, asks Bannon's lawyers for a bit more detail about the "weighty" constitutional issues that they say they need time to litigate, which goes to why they're asking for a much later trial schedule than what the govt is asking for
Re: why Bannon needs a lot of time, lawyer David Schoen says their intended defense strategy potentially includes arguing:
- grand jury wasn't properly instructed re: Bannon relying on advice of counsel
- Jan. 6 committee lacks valid legislative purpose
- selective prosecution
Schoen says that Bannon offered to take the subpoena fight to "civil court" and if a judge ordered him to comply, he would — he doesn't say who exactly Bannon made that offer to or when that happened
Schoen lists other potential defenses/challenges to the prosecution they'd raise, including that DOJ deviated from normal practices and that members of Jan. 6 committee are conflicted — he refers to Rep. Thompson suing over Jan. 6, but note Thompson withdrew from that case
Nichols asks why Bannon needs 10 months. Schoen says it's not a magic number, it's based on the amount of time cases in the DC fed court take, they pulled schedule from other orders in other cases, need "extensive" time to litigate issues
Nichols poses flip side of that Q to the govt, asks why the urgency to get to trial by April, says he has to give Bannon args due consideration. AUSA says even Bannon's lawyer has noted public interest in the case, that's served by respecting speedy trial and getting a resolution
Nichols notes no Jan. 6 prosecution has gotten to trial yet, while recognizing those cases raise complex discovery issues. Says he's loathe to suggest he's splitting the difference between what the govt wants and what Bannon wants, but practically that's what he's leaning towards
Mark your calendar: Nichols sets Steve Bannon's trial to begin July 18, allowing for two weeks.
A real Goldilocks moment, the judge said he believed that Bannon's proposed October trial schedule was too slow, govt's April trial date was too soon
Schoen ends with sweeping remarks about Bannon et al. believing in the right to a speedy trial, but wanting a fair trial; that it's a serious case even though it's a misdemeanor charge, noting mandatory jail if convicted; insisting they'll win on advice of counsel defense
The next status report in Bannon's case is due Dec. 16, that's a wrap
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Mark Meadows is suing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Jan. 6 committee, the case is docketed in federal district court in DC but the complaint isn't up yet (HT @woodruffbets)
Here's @kadiagoba earlier today on the Jan. 6 committee's intent to move ahead with contempt proceedings against Meadows, who had been Trump's chief of staff buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiag…
@kadiagoba Here's Mark Meadows' lawsuit challenging the Jan. 6 committee's subpoenas for his testimony/documents and for his cell phone records from Verizon: s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2115…
"overly broad and unduly burdensome ... issued in whole or part without legal authority"
Hello from Judge Carl Nichols' virtual courtroom, where sentencing is about to begin for Capitol rioter Jennifer Parks. Parks took a misdemeanor plea deal, the govt is asking for 1 month home detention + probation, Parks wants probation alone
Dial-in info for Nichols:
Toll Free Number: 877-873-8017
Access Code: 8692421
AUSA is up first, argues that Jennifer Parks (with her friend Esther Schwemmer, who has also pleaded guilty and is awaiting sentencing) saw lots of "red flags" but that didn't stop them from going inside the Capitol, incl. consoling an injured person who was exiting
Captions in the newly unsealed charging doc for Jan. 6 defendant Thomas (Paul) Conover of Texas are something:
"Conover spends most of the next ten minutes wandering around the Rotunda taking selfies and posing for pictures with his empty can of beer." s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2115…
A can of beer played a starring role in this defendant's alleged activities on Jan. 6:
"I don't always storm the Capitol of the United States of America. But when I do, I prefer Coors Light"
Another unsealed Jan. 6 case: Tim Boughner of Michigan, charged with using chemical spray against cops. Facebook posts, per docs:
Jan. 5: "I'm on my way to Washington DC. To make sure Biden's doesn't become president."
Hello from Judge Amy Berman Jackson's virtual courtroom, where sentencing is about to begin for Capitol rioter Mark Simon, who took a misdemeanor plea — govt wants 45 days in jail, Simon wants probation.
AUSA Brenda Johnson refers to video Simon posted online from the Capitol, but she doesn't play it since the judge says she already watched it. Johnson says it shows the "horde" of rioters Simon was part of, passing broken glass, alarm blaring, tear gas, and he didn't turn back
The 2nd Circuit is hearing arguments this morning in writer E. Jean Carroll's defamation suit against Trump, on the question of whether DOJ can take over Trump's defense.
This is the link to the 2nd Circuit's audio livestream, so far it's giving me an error message, hopefully it'll kick on soon (or someone who spends more time covering this court will tell me what I'm doing wrong!) ww2.ca2.uscourts.gov/court.html
Phew, it's working, they're just getting started now
Worth revisiting the Mississippi case that got us here. The 2018 opinion from Judge Carlton Reeves blocking the 15-week abortion ban included a prescient critique that the state was picking a fight it knew it would lose to get Roe back to SCOTUS: buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetil…