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17 Dec, 11 tweets, 4 min read
Thread: Forget about the wings...What about the hands and feet...Which animal has extremities like these?
I don't think these are bird talons as they are depicted as obvious talons on artefacts from this period...

Example 1: "Two headed dragon" 🙂 golden cup, 1000 BC, Iran. oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.com/2021/06/two-he… Image
Example 2: A Bactrian gold stamp seal, c. 2200-1900 BC...oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.com/2020/12/giant-… Image
You can see from the this object done in the same style, in the same place and the same time as the original object, that artists were pretty precise in depicting animal extremities. Iran, Pre-Achaemenid Period, 8th-6th c. BC, Silver, gold... oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.com/2021/06/winged… Image
Someone said lizards...They have 5 pretty long toes on their feet. So don't think this is a lizard hybrid... Image
@QueenofAllElse suggested elephant...This is possible as Asian elephants have 4 horned toes...But the legs of the composite "mythological" 🙂 creature seems to have scaled legs above the feet...Am I right or am I seeing things? Image
There is one animal which has 4 toes and scaly skin...The Russian tortoise, aka the Afghan, steppe, four-toed, or Horsfield’s tortoise.... Image
Lives in southeastern Russia, Azerbaijan, southern Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Afghanistan, northwestern China, and Pakistan...
And tortoises are linked to some pretty interesting gods and goddesses...And summer...
By the way so are the elephants oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.com/2021/11/samant… Image
PS: It's funny how this image finds me at the time when I am actually researching the link between tortoises and deities in Eurasia...

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19 Dec
Thread (longish but hopefully interesting): The other day I came across this beautiful mural from a Neolithic (7th millennium BC) site Tell Bouqras en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouqras from Syria... Image
It is believed that this mural depicts a group of Common Cranes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cr… Image
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19 Dec
Thread: A very very interesting figuring from Çatalhöyük...

"This figure depicts a human, hybrid representation perhaps of life and death..." Image
"The front portrays the typical robust female with large breasts and stomach...The back portrays an articulated skeleton with a modeled spinal column, a pelvis and scapulas that project above shoulders...ribs are depicted using horizontal scoring..."
"A prominent dowel hole indicates that originally the piece had a separate, detachable head. A circular ‘footprint’ around the dowel hole suggests that the
head fit snugly into this curved space..."

Me: Used to place a head of a newly deceased???

From:

web.stanford.edu/group/figurine…
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10 Dec
Thread: "On Christmas morning in Norway every gable, gateway, or barn-door, is decorated with a sheaf of grain, called "Julenek", fixed on the top of a tall pole, wherefrom it is intended that the birds should make their Christmas dinner"...Julenek, Karl Uchermann 1855-1940...
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The usual explanation for this custom is that that the birds were fed to stop them eating grain from grain stores...But the belief that feeding the birds has influence on the next year's harvest points at another explanation for this custom...Preserved in Slavic folklore...
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8 Dec
Thread: Winter Solstice Celebration, by the Latvian painter Evalds Dajevskis, Acrylic, 1989...

The traditional masked characters dancing in the room are all symbols of death and resurrection of nature...

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Stork:

Storks are migratory birds, which disappear in the autumn and reappear in the spring...Slavs believed that migratory birds spent winter with the sun in Iriy, the land of the dead...So stork = death - resurrection

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Bear:

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26 Nov
Thread: Fur women from Sudan making clay pots...Pic from "Sudan Notes and Records Vol. 22, No. 1 (1939)" (jstor.org/stable/41716315).

And in there we read that Fur people regarded pots, their making and their use, as "female" only and a taboo for men...
For instance, in the above article we can read that when ethnographers asked Fur men how do you say in their language "he lit fire under "burma" (pot used in brewing beer)", the reply was that "you can't say that in our language, cause only women can do that"...
The authors then say that this taboo most likely originates from the ancient association between pots and goddess [mother earth] as for instance "in Nigeria, pots are still associated with mother goddess and a pot is a symbol for a female genitals"...
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25 Nov
Thread: MOTHER Earth...The symbolic link between women and earth depicted on this Early Vinča Culture terracotta figurine from Jela, Iron Gate region of the Danube, Serbia, c. 5200 BC, H. 5.3 cm, which has a branching plant growing out of the womb...
It is interesting that this Neolithic Early Vinča culture depiction of the mother goddess was found in the same region where in Mesolithic we find Lepenski Vir culture, whose people made exactly the same image out of a bone...3000 years earlier, around 8000BC...
The symbolic depiction of a mother earth as a woman is kind of easy to understand. They both give birth to things...

What is interesting is that Slavs who live in the area today, have preserved this symbolic depiction of the mother earth as a female...
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