Short THREAD on log scales and why I tend not to use them.

I've been criticised at times for not plotting case numbers etc on a log scale. I want to explain why.

TLDR: essentially it's because the burden of covid ill health and on NHS is people not log people. 1/8
When you've got exponential growth (e.g. in new covid cases or hospital admissions, it will be a straight line if you put the vertical axis on a "log scale" (normally equally spaced powers of 10).

Charts show same exponential growth on a normal scale and a log scale. 2/8
Log scales are really useful for e.g:

a) seeing if growth is exponential (straight line?)
b) looking for acceleration or slow down in growth
c) comparing growth between countries at different stages of epidemic 3/8
And if I'm trying to do those things I will use log scales and (sometimes) share log scale plots.

But often I stick to normal ("linear") scales and explain that growth rates are equal or that growth is exponential etc in words instead.

Why? 4/8
Firstly, most people don't look at data charts very often.
So I try to make mine as intuitive & foolproof as possible. Most people haven't done logs since they were teenagers & don't remember how they work.
Logs are also NOT intuitive. Our brains don't work that way really. 5/8
You can label your charts brilliantly on log scales, but often people react as if they are still showing you *linear* effects - not exponential ones. This means that people might instinctively underestimate the scale of the problem.

E.g.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.10… 6/8
Finally, the *impact* of exponential growth in ill health is on people. They don't come in logs.

Impact is exponentially worse the longer exponential growth continues. Acting early makes a HUGE difference.

Linear scales do a better job of showing that than log scales. 7/8
If your audience is people who have adapted to log scales then logs are fantastic. I avidly follow many people here who use them because I find them very informative.

But for a general audience who might spend 10 seconds looking at your chart, I much prefer linear. 8/8

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Prof. Christina Pagel - @chrischirp.bsky.social

Prof. Christina Pagel - @chrischirp.bsky.social Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @chrischirp

Oct 19
Important 🧵on our new peer-reviewed paper:

The pandemic is as bad as it ever was for babies - in year to Aug 2023, 6,300 babies under 1 were admitted to hospital wholly or partly BECAUSE of Covid.

They are ONLY age group where admissions have NOT gone down over time 1/17 Image
Our study, led by Prof @katebrown220, looked at all hospitalisations in England in children with a Covid diagnosis or positive test from Aug 2020-Aug 2023.
We then *excluded* all admissions where a Covid diagnosis was incidental (ie not why they were in hospital)
2/17 Image
Infants (babies under 1) are generally at higher risk from respiratory infections, plus they are the age group that, if infected, are overwhelmingly meeting the virus for the first time.

They are not vaccinated and have not had it before. 3/17
Read 18 tweets
Sep 26
Prof @Kevin_Fong giving the most devastating and moving testimony to the Covid Inquiry of visiting hospital intensive care units at the height of the second wave in late Dec 2020.

The unimaginable scale of death, the trauma, the loss of hope.
Please watch this 2min clip.
And here he breaks down while explaining the absolute trauma experienced by smaller hospitals in particular - the "healthier" ICU patients were transferred out, leaving them coping with so much death.

They felt so alone.
Here Prof Fong explains how every nurse he met was traumatised by watching patients die, being only able to hold up ipads to their relatives and how it went against their normal practice of trying to ensure a dignified death, with family there.
Read 5 tweets
Aug 28
THREAD: I asked what the point of Public Inquiries is for @bmj_latest

We've spent hundreds of millions of £ on Inquiries over last decades, generating deep understanding of failures & 1000s of recommendations.

But v few recommendations get implemented!
What is going on?

1/12 Image
E.g. Covid-19 Inquiry has cost £94 million so far - and is projected to cost over £200m by its end (it still has years to go).

1st report published (out of at least 9) found major flaws and proposed 10 recommendations.

Chances are low that they will be implemented :-( 2/12


Image
Image
Image
Image
Inst for Government looked at 68 Inquiries from 1990-2017.
The Inquiries cost over £630 million and made 2,625 recommendations.

Only 6/68 Inquiries have received full scrutiny by a parliamentary select committee on implementation of recommendations. 3/12 Image
Read 12 tweets
Aug 9
🧵War causes direct civilian deaths but also indirect deaths over the following years.

Recent paper estimates eventual total direct & indirect deaths in Gaza attributable to the war - 10% of entire pop'n.

I want to explain these estimates and why deaths must be counted. 1/13 Image
Why count casualties from war anyway? For moral, legal and strategic reasons.

1 - owe it to those who have died
2 - International law says must count & identify dead as far as possible
3 - monitor progress of war & learn from tactics

2/13 Image
There are direct and indirect casualties of war. Direct deaths include those who killed by fighting or bombs.

Indirect deaths are those that die when they would otherwise have lived because of one or more of: lack of food, healthcare, housing, sanitation, income, hope. 3/13 Image
Read 14 tweets
Aug 1
THREAD: the summer Covid wave in the UK continues.
Basically, there is a LOT of Covid around and not a lot of other respiratory viruses.

If you have cold or flu symptoms, it's probably Covid.

The latest hospital data from England shows steady, quite high levels. 1/8 Image
But admissions don't tell us how much virus is circulating more generally. The best (but imperfect) measure we have is wasterwater measurements, and only in Scotland and not England.

Scotland's wastewater is showing a huge July peak - highest since Omicron's 1st yr in 2022 2/8 Image
Because different people shed different amounts of virus and variants can matter too, you can't for sure infer how many people were infected between different wasterwater peaks. BUT given the size, I'd say it's pretty likely this is the largest peak since 2022 in Scotland 3/8
Read 8 tweets
Jul 23
THREAD:
I wrote about Baroness Hallett's Inquiry Module 1 report for @bmj_latest .

She found that there was *never* a plan to keep a pandemic death toll down - I discuss this and what it means going foward.

Main points below: 1/14 Image
The headline most seen is that the UK planned for the wrong pandemic.

While it is true that was far too narrow a focus on a flu pandemic, that is not the most telling bit.

To me the most telling bit, is what the plan did NOT do 2/14


Image
Image
Image
Image
The issue is less the wrong disease, but that there was never a plan to prevent one at all – of any disease type.

The plan was *never* about reducing the number of pandemic deaths. 3/14 Image
Read 14 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(