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Jan 7, 2022 • 5 tweets • 3 min read • Read on X
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Swindon of the Southern League enjoyed a big FA Cup upset win against Man City in their first ever meeting (1910). But a 1-1 draw in 1930 led to a 10-1 defeat in the replay. And they lost 7-0 in 1953 too.
Swindon's 4th round (quarter-final) win over Man City in 1910 got them to the first of their two FA Cup semi-finals, losing to Newcastle who beat Barnsley in the final. Swindon got to the semi-final again in 1912, but lost to Barnsley who won the FA Cup.
The 1910 FA Cup run led to Barnsley and Swindon being invited to Paris to promote football to the French by playing for the Dubonnet Cup at the Parc des Princes. (The organisers had wanted to repeat the FA Cup final, but Newcastle could not make it). Swindon won the Dubonnet Cup
The Dubonnet Cup was enormous, guarded by a gendarme with a drawn sword. The organisers were delighted with the crowd of 7000 in the rain in Paris. From Barnsley FC historian David Wood.
swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2015/febr…
The Dubonnet Cup. After the Swindon v Barnsley inaugural tournament, Clapton Orient beat Millwall, and Fulham beat QPR in the 1911 and 1912 finals in Paris. The French Football Federation was founded in 1919.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubonnet_…

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Jun 1
It's interesting Martin so puzzled by why anti-immigration pitches are much harder to make to young British than young French people. His analysis ("identity politics") is a Very Online/Media Talking Point misperception of causality. The actual drivers offer important insights.
Big driver is UK has comparatively much better integration outcomes than France - for migrants & esp UK-born children (grandchildren) of migrants. In education, in residential segregation, in work, contact. Has big impacts on intergroup relations among young people at school. FT

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Vg 2017 paper by @ProfSobolewska illuminates a key consequence. Collapse in overt prejudice over generations reflects a deeper reciprocal change: "social distance" between the majority and minority groups much reduced, both ways around, with more contact
academia.edu/34481657/Is_et…
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May 16
Seems to be a trend towards large NGOs in Britain adopting "global majority" communities (to talk about all people who aren't white).

I think organisations should not adopt until have checked
- do most people understand the term?
- do most people it is being used about approve?
I would welcome your views about this term: for, against or neutral.

I am v.sceptical about it & don't identity with it (though I am in the 85% of people on this planet it is grouping together). Here are some of my reasons for finding it unfamiliar, incoherent and regressive.
1. Organisations should try to use language that most people understand (across different ages, levels of education, social class)

People can argue for novel, unfamiliar terms & try to build awareness. Only a small group - mainly uni graduates - will know this term.
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Apr 17
There is a persistent pattern of CCHQ/government investigations burying very serious issues (including credible allegations of criminality) until they act rapidly, after exposure in the media, months after knowing the content
Peter Bone: party did not investigate for 5 years
Sexual assault of a minor. CCHQ received this allegation before Dec 2019 election but did not investigate. Victim went to police instead after the election. MP Khan (Wakefield) suspended by party 15 months later, when charged & expelled him in 2022 after he was convicted in court Image
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Apr 11
Spoke to Guardian about this. My view is politics of dealignment have been v successful for Labour - advancing most where weaker - & & time for a change will hold most core votes too. Bigger challenge to come in trying to retain that coalition in power theguardian.com/politics/2024/…
Excellent visualisation by @Dylan_Difford of Labour's advances 2019-24 Image
In 2024 this is an "every silver lining has a cloud" thought. No risk to 99%+ of Lab-held seats, though Greens hope to challenge in Bristol. A 10%+ swing would sweep all target seats

Maybe turnout worries with young voters if many people thought result was foregone conclusion.
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Apr 7
Sunday Telegraph news report on a poll of British Muslim attitudes, with comments from Fiyaz Mughal responding to it. This survey found that 4/10 Muslim respondents say Hamas did not commit atrocities on October 7th. Thread on these findings follows.
telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/0…
The poll results are published here by JL Partners. It was conducted for the Henry Jackson Society. (HJS don't seem to have published a report; there is nothing I could find on their website or socials beyond media reports/press releaase)
jlpartners.com/polling-results
Press release note = what is avaiable on the methodology. It is tricky to sample Muslims & other minority groups. JL Partners have used Number Cruncher/Matt Singh who are good at this. Eg, 14th Feb - 12th March period is one way to avoid over-sampling the highly engaged. Image
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Mar 23
Interesting report on the nuances of public views of equality and diversity. While there is general support in principle, this research suggest a number of ways that could broaden/sustain support, defuse polarisation & above all put more focus into things that are effective.
6/10 people think equality/diversity a good thing, five times more than bad thing

But almost a quarter of people (3/10 men and 1/6 women) worry could be bad for "people like me". Majorities of black & Asian respondents (3-1) think its good for them. White split is 39-24 Image
Does it make a difference? A plurality 46% to 28% that it does.

I would tend towards a more "it depends" - or it could lead to fairer outcomes if it was done effectively. Nb there is not a broad/deep conservative opposition against the progressive enthusiasm Image
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