The other thing I think we all (and I mean *all*) need to reckon with, in the US, is that we can't just handwave things like Jan 6 away with "they don't represent Christianity any more than the Taliban represents Islam."
That's a comforting framework, sure.
But here's the thing.
The Taliban doesn't represent Islam. And it *especially* doesn't represent American Islam. It holds no political power here, and the over*whelming* majority of American Muslims are horrified by it.
Israeli setters don't represent Judaism, and they ESPECIALLY don't represent American Judaism. The *overwhelming* majority of American Jews vehemently oppose them.
But neither Jews nor Muslims are saying that settlers or the Taliban aren't Jewish or Muslim. We recognize that they're part of our global community and part of what we have to reckon with.
They also don't hold a single seat in any US governing body.
Evangelicals, on the other hand, are the *largest group of American Christians. They hold TONS of seats in US governing bodies.
To say that the largest demographic of the largest religion in the US doesn't represent that religion is... bonkers.
So stop pretending that minority groups within minority religions whose political representation is in *other countries entirely* are analogous, in an American context, to *the largest demographic in the largest religion in America.*
Hell, 15-20% of Americans believe Qanon (evangelical Christian nationalism on steroids, with a side helping of blatant Nazi-era antisemitism).
There are 10x as many Qanoners in the US as there are Jews.
"They don't represent [American] Christianity" is a comforting lie both for Christians, because it means they're no more obligated than anyone else to deal with the issue, and for non-Christians, because it lets us feel like we're WAY safer than we are.
"They don't represent REAL Christians, most Christians aren't like that" suggests that oh yeah the real Christians won't let things get too bad.
...meanwhile most "real" Christians are a lot more concerned with shutting up people who ask them to clean house than stopping it.
"real Christians aren't like that"
PROVE IT.
Go missionize to their churches.
Go confront them at every local school board meeting or town hall where they purport to represent "Christians."
Hell, ping your Christian, non-evangelical representatives and demand that every time some evangelical in Congress talks about "Christianity," they interrupt to clarify "EVANGELICAL Christianity."
Stop coasting on their political muscle and start divorcing them.
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Here’s how we KNOW that “progressive” Christians see Christian nationalist evangelicals as Christians, even while they insist to the rest of us that they’re not:
They don’t have any initiatives to proselytize to them.
Like, ok, a lot of more liberal denominations either don’t have missionaries anymore (which, don’t get me wrong, is a GOOD thing) or downplay them, but if y’all genuinely believe that Christian nationalists aren’t really Christian, AND that they’re giving you a bad name…
…it’s not as if you don’t have a bazillion historical models for how to sway non-Christians to your Christianity.
And I mean, none of us were even pretending to be you.
cool, maybe be more concerned w cleaning your house than protecting The Brand
bc y'all still *benefit* from Christian hegemony same as white people all benefit from whiteness whether we want to or not, and you can't dismantle it if your primary concern is protecting Xtian rep
one of my least favorite Pretentious Creative things is the whole "peer into the mind of an artist!!!" thing
I don't believe that there is such a thing as a Way Artists Think
Like, look, I worked in a creative industry for years and the idea that there are "creatives" and people who aren't creatives in ANY sense other than what your day job is is complete bullshit
The people who had non-"creative" jobs weren't any less creative than those of us who had "creative" positions.
They didn't have fewer ideas, they didn't have less novel ideas.
What they had was a different role at that particular job.