If you haven't heard, FDA approved molnupiravir for COVID19. I've been concerned it could create highly mutated SARSCoV2 and make new enhanced viruses more likely. Today a new study supports the idea that letting viruses sample multiple mutations is risky.
It's already known that molnupiravir doesn't kill off all mutant viruses after 5 days, but does introduce mutations into the viral genome. That is after all its only mechanism of action. Some of the mutated viable viruses may then hop to other people.
The pro-MOV argument is that MOV drops levels of viable virus more than it increases mutations in the remaining viruses, which might mean fewer later mutational templates. For several reasons, these arguments are not convincing, which means we're making an unusually dangerous bet
The reasons are (1) we don't have data that this best-case scenario is actually true. Amazingly, Merck has never measured the # of mutations in the viruses that do remain viable. FDA didn't demand it before granting EUA either.
(2) MOV increases the rate of both CU and GA transitions, while naturally CU predominates. So MOV is going to lead to a different mix of mutations (singly and in combination) than seen before. The virus can now evolve via sequence paths that were highly improbable before.
It is thus possible that, by reducing previously high probability barriers to reach new genotypes, a burst of MOV-induced mutagenesis could more than make up for any MOV-induced reduction in viral transmission, in terms of long-term evolutionary benefits for the virus.
(3) MOV will lead to more viable viruses with multiple mutations on the same genome. At least at the end of treatment mutations are found at 5x more spots than placebo, so it seems to increase mutagenesis rates from 2 bases at 5 days to 10 bases at 5 days.
And 1 person with virus containing 10 mutations may be worse than 10 people with virus containing 2 mutations, if variants arise from combinations of mutations together confering fitness (even if individually have no benefit). I made this point before:
Today a new study shows that this kind of phenomenon may occur in Omicron. A study found that 13 mutations in Omicron spike are individually rare in SARSCoV2, so likely not beneficial alone. But together they apparently work to change how spike functions.
nytimes.com/2022/01/24/sci…
Protein engineers know this is very common; often times an individual mutation has no effect but 2 or 3 together in one spot can improve or change a protein function in some useful way. We've seen this repeatedly in our protein work.
Omicron spike shows clusters of 5, 4, and 4 mutations. If each mutation is disadvantageous on its own, then it's harder to accumulate all the mutations needed to reach the benefit of having the combination of them, because the intermediate steps are being selected against.
Thus the way to accelerate the evolution of beneficial multiply muated variants, if individual mutations are disadvantaged but combinations are not, is to induce a burst of heavier mutagenesis, so that each genome has multiple (say 10) mutations.
Of course most of these 10-site mutants are defective, but at least you've created a pool in which a beneficial combination of several mutations can be found in a single genome much more easily, compared to a pool with an average of 2 mutations per genome.
Thus if accumulation of multiple mutations, each slightly deleterious, in the right combination is a rate-limiting step for generating new variants of concern, then heavy mutagenesis in a small pool may be, on net, more dangerous than natural low mutagenesis on many templates.
This is just support for concern #3 above. Concern #2 hasn't yet been addressed experimentally, but I don't think we need to wait to find out. In any case either of these concerns, validated or theoretical, seems more than sufficient to counteract the theoretical assurances.
At least, it seems unwise to let MOV do the mutagenesis in people and hope nothing bad happens, especially when MOV is of such questionable efficacy. Better for the patients, and safer for everyone, to increase the supply of vaccines, use drugs rarely, and use better/safer drugs.
That is, vaccines are cheaper, prevent illness to begin with, and prevent hospitalization at 90% efficacy, not the 30% of molnupiravir (and note MOV is really only for unvaccinated and not previously immune, so if you're vaccinated you don't need it). They are the real answer.
I know @chasewnelson @hjelle_brian @CT_Bergstrom @sarperotto @WmHaseltine @JamesEKHildreth @RickABright were discussing this. Would appreciate your thoughts.

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Jan 24
New CDC studies have good news for the boosted, I mean up-to-date, bad news for double-jabbed only

The good news: Protection from Omicron ER visits is 82% for the up-to-date

The bad news: Protection down to measly 38% for non-boosted 6mo after dose 2

cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7…
First a quick detour: We're now calling people who are adhering to the most recent recommendation up-to-date on their shots. I think this is a good thing. Unlike "fully vaxxed" it is language that can be continually used even as guidance changes.
usnews.com/news/health-ne…
Now back to the studies. The first one, linked in the top post, looked at ER/urgent-care visits, and at hospitalizations. Hospitalization protection against Omicron is also poor after two doses and waning. It's also restored to excellent levels by a third dose.
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Jan 13
Two years too late. Okay, it was the former guy then, so just 1 year too late for this administration.

I recommended household distribution of small packs of masks in March 2020.

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Korea and Taiwan did that for their citizens. Taiwan gave out a few free medical masks per week per person. Korea allowed purchases but limited per person and price-controlled.
nytimes.com/2020/04/01/opi…
In the US, pushback to medical masks for all was based on the myth that there were not enough to go around. But this was simply not true. There were 100s of millions of masks, but HHS took them all for the hospitals. Hence a prevention opportunity was lost
Read 6 tweets
Jan 11
Making a new COVID-19 metathread for 2022.

Previous 2020-2021 COVID-19 metathread is below

2022.01.01. Recommending the 3M Aura as a speakable, breathable, comfortable, affordable N95 mask.
2022.01.04. Reiterating my concerns that molnupiravir's low efficacy is not worth the risk of creating highly mutated viruses, with similar opinions from Danish MDs and an admission from a Danish official that its approval skipped normal requirements.
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Jan 11
Some Omicron trends that we can now definitively see:
• Case hospitalization and fatality rates (CHR, CFR) in SA, Denmark, UK, Australia, US
• A guess at true infection hospitalization and fatality rates (IHR, IFR)
• Omicron peaking in many regions of the US
This follows a previous thread where we inferred from early SA data that the CHR was lower for Omicron than earlier waves due to prior immunity and lower virulence, and it would be similar in the West. (But still bad news due to very high case # s)
The SA data as of 2021/12/28 showed Omicron CHR and CFR at ~50% and ~15% of the 2021/01 peak.

The CHR is clearly ~50% of the year-ago peak. Deaths however are still creeping up and CFR now 20% of year-ago. Others observed older people got Omicron later in SA; may relate to that.
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Jan 7
Since my analysis concluding 3 shots are required for the broad response needed against Omicron, and that #JnJers will need 2 shots of RNA, others like former Surgeon General @JeromeAdamsMD have reached the same conclusion
16M Americans are stuck in pre-Omicron limbo. We just need to admit J&J was like one shot of RNA, so they were behind 2xRNA-vaxxed and should be allowed to catch up. (And a 2nd J&J is not as good due to immunized clearance of the adenovirus vector)
Most #JnJers understand past mistakes of CDC and FDA on this and other topics have already degraded their credibility. This is why people are turning to writing articles to point out the problem. Credibility on this topic can only go up by addressing it
usatoday.com/story/news/hea…
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Jan 6
On-the-ground look at Omicron from the Marin County PH officer.

- Cases peaked 2 wks ago
- 18/19 hospitalizations non-ICU (most don't even need O2, some asymptomatic)
- Older vaccinated well protected

Not sure Omicron truly done here but still...

sfgate.com/coronavirus/ar… Image
As @Merz mentioned Marin is one of the highest-vaxxed counties in CA. However it's not particularly young. The experience is "anecdotal" anyway but the PH officer relates it to past experience in the same location. It may serve as an example of what high vax rates can achieve.
@Merz The observation about low ICU rates is similar to what we've seen in London so far
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