Quite a few Danes are upset about my tweet last night about the odd phenomenon of ICU covid cases decreasing in Denmark while cases, hospitalisations, and mortality increase.
A Dane directed me to guidance issued on December 2021 that suggested that hospitals needed to consider whether patients really needed ICU before referring them, or if they could be handled in an existing ward.
It seems to me that this could be a reasonable explanation.
I've been personally attacked for this and told that no, this was only going to happen if ICU was under pressure and that didn't happen. Ends up that just 2 weeks before that guidance, this article in DagensMedicine stated there were only 10 free ICU beds in the entire country
"on 6 December there were 310 intensive beds across the country, of which only 10 were vacant. By comparison, between 1 February 2021 and 21 June 2021, there were an average of 77 vacant intensive beds in the country's hospitals."
Over the next 3 weeks, just the number of covid ICU patients in Denmark increased by around double the number of free beds. As the document states, other causes usually increase pressure at this time of year too.
And that's not ICU under pressure?
Back in early 2020, data clearly showed something had happened with Swedish ICU. Like today, I was attacked for pointing it out.
Now, I don't *think* that what's happened in Denmark is as serious as what happened in Sweden - with elderly being given palliative care instead of treatment. But I also don't know if that's what happened. I'm fine with "think about if ICU is really needed" is enough.
What *doesn't* explain the diverging trends is things like "incidental covid", ie people testing positive despite receiving care for other issues. Why would people needing ICU have a *decreasing* rate of positives while *everywhere else* it's increasing?
Makes no sense.
So something changed. The data shows ICU was clearly under pressure in December. An official document that same month has suggestions on what to do to relieve that pressure.
That's it. No conspiracy. Nothing nefarious. Just a potential explanation. I'm open to others.
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Denmark this week lifted all Covid related restrictions, and one of the many talking points is that patients in ICU have been declining, despite cases and hospitalisations increasing.
What's not mentioned is that at the end of Dec, Denmark changed protocols for admission to ICU.
Denmark, like Sweden, now has *fewer* ICU beds overall than at the start of the Pandemic - a casualty of exhausted health care workers quitting or sick.
With the onset of Omicron, new guidelines essentially said "Do they *really* need ICU? Could you do it another ward?"
Less than 2 weeks later, the total number of patients in ICU (unfortunately OwiD does not have admissions) started to decline.
Sars-CoV-2 is a new virus. We don't know everything it does.
We do know it can, even if vaccinated -
* make you very ill
* kill you
* get in to most organs, incl. the brain
* stay there at least 18 months and...
* damage your kidneys
* damage your heart
* damage your lungs
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* damage your pancreas
* cause autoimmune disease
* cause chronic, disabling illness
* trigger diabetes
* trigger cancer
* reactivate latent viruses
* cause fertility problems
* make your penis shrink (if you have one)
* cause strokes months later
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* make you permanently lose your sense of taste and smell
* stop your lungs transferring oxygen
* stop your lungs getting rid of CO2
* stop your muscles being able to use oxygen
* damage your immune system
* cause heart attacks, months later
* and much more ...
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The recruitment methods for the two groups were different. The Covid-positive group got messaged via an app typically used for official communications and was sent to *all* parents in the country with a child with a positive test history.
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The control group was sourced via a message sent through a standard school app, and sent to parents in just 5 Danish municipalities (there's 98!)
The response rate was *very* different - 44.9% vs 21.3%.
The introductory text to the surveys was not provided.
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1. Have you received a formal diagnosis by medical personnel? If yes, of what? (eg POTS, PASC etc). If you know the ICD-10 code(s) please provide them.
2. What tests were done and what did they show?
3. any comments you think of use?
(fine to answer in your own language!)
I'll start (fine to answer in your own language!).
1. I've seen three doctors post-covid, three diagnoses, in order. Cut and paste from the online journal (in Swedish) -
Huvuddiagnos
Observation/utredning för misstänkt allergi/atopi
@Ingrid_Helander, the "science editor" for one of Sweden's leading newspapers, @SvD apparently "liked" a tweet calling New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Adhern, "hysterical" (and not as in funny)