Simulations of the area of tropical moisture that brought torrential rains to the South Island now show a storm system moving south into the Tasman Sea resulting in intense rainfall across Northern NZ through Feb 12th.
Forecasts for this system's exact impact remain highly uncertain but four major global forecasting models are in agreement that some form of extreme weather for NZ will be result.
These are the latest ensemble tropical storm "spaghetti" track graphics for storms north of NZ.
The event is expected to begin within 24 hours these are four different models showing the intense area of atmospheric moisture moving over Northern NZ this morning (Sunday) NZT.
And these four model simulations update the PWAT (precipitable water) picture as of Monday morning. Typically areas of dark red and purple such as you see in these plots will produce heavy rain, especially when moving southwards into colder air.
The storm is not expected to be particularly intense in pressure terms though some of the models show it strengthening and it could do so.
The simple physics of a very large mass of very wet water moving over NZ for several days will produce #extremeweather.
These are the two latest GFS and ECMWF model forecasts wrt to air pressure - as you can see they are broadly similar - but cannot be relied on beyond the next three days - if SP09 develops into a stronger storm, whatever is about to happen will change.
The next four animations show four different "deterministic" (i.e. physics based) computer model simulations of what could happen to the very wet air mass. Firstly Canada's CMC.
Secondly we have the Australian ACG model (which as explained in an earlier thread [2 days ago] quoted below) is in its relatively early stages of development.
The Canadian model is closely associated with the American GFS model which you see here - and which is the most sophisticated - and which settled on this scenario earliest.
And finally we have the European @ECMWF model - the 2nd mature tropical weather model which continues to have a slightly preferable outcome with most of its impacts (at least in this run) expected in the North Island.
@ECMWF In summary we have four "not great" possible scenarios for this #ExtremeWeather event - similar but different.
Add in the fact that the orchestrator in this event, namely SPO9/92P, is still weak and a long way away and all this turns into a major headache for forecasters.
The models have been changing significantly between runs and as this develops the @weathermodels_ GFS IWVT (Integrated Water Vapour Transport) animation will likely be the best means to keep track of what to expect.
This plot combines Water, Wind and Pressure data in one.
These plots are from the preceding run showing the picture at 96, 132, 144 and 168 hours (12th Feb) by which time the model expects this to be over.
Here we have four sequential simulation outcomes, from Feb 3, Feb 4 and Feb 5 model runs for this theoretical end-date for this event from the one model.
But note all four are likely to be wrong and we will only know with some degree of certainty what will happen at 48 hours.
That said, as this event is initiating today, we can also say with some degree of confidence that this new phase in the ongoing atmospheric river event associated with this tropical convection system will effect the North Island - and possibly in a fairly extreme fashion.
We currently have for possible rainfall long range rainfall outcomes to get an idea about what this might look like. The first was used in the OP and comes from the GFS Model.
The second from the @ECMWF and the clear and dramatic difference between the two relates to the path of tropical storm of interest SP09/92P.
Here are the current rainfall solutions from all four models discussed in this thread, two detailed, the other two regional.
IMO all indicate a serious enough threat to justify informing people and enabling them to make whatever preparations they need to make.
While there remains a lot of uncertainty about how much rain will fall where and when, we certainly have reason to be concerned that a lot of rain could fall almost anywhere in NZ as a result of this dangerous weather system.
A wise head here in the media center just made a compelling counter argument to the practicality of the G77 and China walking away from the talks here.
And it’s essentially based in the recognition of rising geo-strategic entropy and the phenomena arising out of a lack any coherent global order. /1
The loud activist refrain here is “no deal is better than a bad deal.” But the question is what will the mean. in another conversation a person involved in finance talks just suggested that it’s looking very unlikely that there will be any agreement here simply because there is no strong leadership here. And in particular minimal representation here of strong G7 leadership. /2
By strong here I mean “financially strong.”
So the most likely outcome here now looks to almost certainly be no agreement on an NCQG and as a result it’s feeling rather gloomy now. /3
It’s a gray day here at #COP29Azerbaijan as the 29th Meeting of Nations to address what is now a #ClimateCrisis enters extra time, day one. THREAD.
Civil Society is preparing for a big day in the COP29 venue till the Closing Plenary is convened most likely fairly late Saturday. Here are letters sent to the largest Developing block of COP Nations G77+ China and several developed world nations last night.
This came after new texts were released on the Core remaining issues in this Climate Summit:
Finance - specifically the NCQG - the draft text contained the first number placed on the table 250 Billion, which is not even an inflation adjusted upgrade on the 100 Billion a year in finance agreed in Copenhagen in 2009.
The city is remarkably like Wellington weather wise swinging from day to day and occasionally lovely on a good day.
But the NCQG negotiations are still pretty much deadlocked on the most important issue here, Finance, with no numbers on the table yet. And talks still stuck on many of the same issues they were stuck on at the beginning.
I had an opportunity to speak the Egyptian Ambassador as I was leaving who is in a “Pair” appointed by the Presidency with the Australian Ambassador takes to try to get an agreement on the NCQG. He was optimistic about a realistic NCQG figure being eventually offered by Developed Nations to Developing Nations. But did not expect this to come until the very end.
And Negotiations will therefore continue today. This video was at the venue last night - Birds seem to have a commute past the venue to where they sleep.
Developed Nations want some nations that have developed since the process begun, Annex 2 Nations, to be part of the contributor base. The two most prominent of these China and Saudi Arabia say they are already contributing voluntarily and apparently not keen to be brought into the official NCQG base - and this remains an obstacle.
The Ambassador did not think their position on this will change.
As some followers in NZ may be aware I am currently at #COP29 in Baku Azerbaijan. My fourth COP. And this is a relatively difficult one. Rod Oram died tragically in a cycling accident in March 2024 when I was back in NZ for my first visit since leaving NZ to spread my wings in 2015.
I caught up with him in Glasgow back in 2021 in the time of Covid.
But I have known him for a lot longer as you will see in the photos in this thread. The oldest pictures I have are from him at the Egypt hosted COP in 2022. My second COP.
His successor in climate coverage @NewsroomNZ's @marcdaalder is attending his first COP this year which got me thinking about NZ's COP UNCCC coverage trailblazer for in person COP coverage.
There is a great spirit of camaraderie among the large COP media pool. In Glasgow he helped me orient myself, which is not an effortless process as the COP process is so big and varied and seemingly endless. But the attendees and guardians from the UNFCCC are all great people too.
Here at #COP29 at the end of 2024 the brilliant Marc Daalder is now filling Rod's shoes as in person COP correspondent. Whilst there are a fair few other Kiwis here we are the only Kiwi Journos here that I know of.
As I had never met him I was quite surprised when Cindy Baxter turned up to meet him and it turned out he was sitting one row away from me.
The official video record of COP29 is being erased every 12 hours & nobody here knows
The Media Center for UNFCCC COP meetings was transformed in 2021 in Glasgow during the UK Presidency of the COP. The new high tech set up has cameras in all official meeting places recording the events in full. The content from this system is then made available to media in the MEDIA Center via the IBC (Interational Broadcast Center) platform.
The center also has desks for several hundred journalists to work during the COP.
The first signs came on Thursday day four (14 November 2024) of COP29 last week during the first week of the COP. Ordinarily reporters attending COPs can request access to get files downloaded through a media desk. This can be useful to extract quotes or report on events that we are unable to attend due to timetable clashes etc.
The wrong headed and frankly selfish approach of NZME and STUFF on the issue of the "Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill" [see: mch.govt.nz/our-work/broad…] is deeply problematic for independent and digital native publishing companies such as @Scoop.
Part 1 of my thoughts on the subject can be found here.
Other medium sized digital native publications including @NewsroomNZ and @TheSpinoffTV are in a similar position to us - as well as a large group of smaller independent digital and print publications across New Zealand.
.@Google has made it very clear to the Government that it will withdraw its support for NZ media companies should this Bill pass. It considers the proposal to be a link tax and that the precedent that this would create for how the internet works globally is something that it cannot accept. As this is a global policy issue it will not back down on this.