Our second speaker Sagar has begun discussing 'From Colonial to the Everyday: Hindutva’s Caste Ambiguity' #CountingCaste #CasteCensus
I will speak from my experiences of reporting on Hindutva, before coming to the caste census. Hindutva is not just about mobs wearing shawls, red marks on their forehead. It is more about people who want Hinduism as the normal politics of the country.
First coined by Savarkar, he says Hindutva is about common religion, common heroes, common history, common festivals, common flow of blood, everyone born this side of Sindhu. He says Christian and Muslim communities are not Hindu because they do not have this common history.
Golvalkar said ‘caste system saved us from succumbing to foreign powers’. Deen Dayal also said ‘caste is what Hindu religion is, that is dharma. They will replace caste with dharma, morality, with social things, and keep repeating this.
Without caste there cannot be a Hindu, it is the nucleus of Hindu religion, that caste is important for unity of Hindus.
I met militia groups while reporting who have arms, and cadres. Their composition is mostly Jat, Gujjar, Kashyaps, somewhere between OBC and Kshatriya. They identify with the 36 biradris, these were originally farming castes, they are agreed to vote for farming related leaders.
But now it has become a Hindu identity and they say they will protect their women, and their enemies are those who will attack their women. They think it is their duty to defend themselves against Muslims and you can see how this is a caste identity.
We see many of our leaders like Mayawati, Akhilesh talking about Ram mandir etc., but they are not talking about land grab, reservation not being implemented. Our leaders are not talking about our rights being taken away.
Dalit panthers started with the simple idea of taking data about atrocities to the masses and make people aware. Today we report 30-60,000 instances of atrocities with a fraction of convictions in these cases.
We need 1000s of Bhim Army, to show that we can take this legally, socially, that we will not be threatened.
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"the institution that is asking for an update of data is the judiciary. And if the judiciary wants to know the nation wants to know!" _ Prof @jaffrelotc
"Hindutva politics and the Post Mandal caste politics that BJP plays is not contradictory, it's indeed complimentary" - @jaffrelotc
"It's not only that we dont know the effect of reservation on public sector, but we also have no data on its effect of academia!" - how has reservation affected the socio-economic status of Dalits and Adivasis in terms of their access to power in education-@jaffrelotc
Q&A for the 4th Panel on 'From Colonial to the Everyday: Hindutva’s Caste Ambiguity' is going on.
#CasteCensus "Between 2014 and 2018, UPPSC jobs came down by 40% and so oppressed groups got fewer jobs by reservations. In 2019, by setting income limit of 8 LPA, government made this quota accessible only to the elites of UCs."-Christophe Jaffrelot @saaf_oxforduni
#CasteCensus "Shudra landed castes (Marathas, Jatts etc) did not support reservation. Only now that regional Shudra leadership is demanding Caste Census. Once it comes, they realizes the truth about their strength in powerful places"-Kancha Ilaiah Shepherd @saaf_oxforduni
Our third speaker Christophe Jaffrelot (@jaffrelotc) has begun discussing 'From Colonial to the Everyday: Hindutva’s Caste Ambiguity' #CountingCaste #CasteCensus
@jaffrelotc We need data, showing representation of different castes in different institutions. This is one of the ways to assess the degree of representativeness and hence democratisation, this is true for India and other countries.
@jaffrelotc Those who come from one group will be inclined to speak about their group, especially in parliament. I started looking at this data of Members of Parliaments, in the 80s and this data is a goldmine.
Our first speaker Kancha Ilaiah Shepherd begins speaking on 'From Colonial to the Everyday: Hindutva’s Caste Ambiguity'
What are called as ‘Hindu texts’ do not have anything about counting people, including the Rig Veda. They do not mention the role of the productive communities of Shudras and their numbers.
Whether it is the right wing, the left wing, the liberals, none have spoken about the damage by the Hindu texts about the absence of productive communities.