Sen. Patti Laboucan-Benson ask Sen. Plett if he thinks the government should have given in to the demands of protestors and lift all mandates. Is that the kind of precedent we want?
Sen. Plett said he never agreed with the Memorandum of Understanding. Says he thought it was silly, but that nobody took it seriously, and it didn't come from the Alberta leaders, anyway.
Sen. Laboucan-Benson tries again. Should a government give in to illegal activity? Should the government have lifted the mandates as demanded?
Plett says no, he doesn't think a government should act under threat. But he repeats that the government should have brought in a mediator. And he says mandates should have been lifted even before the convoy arrived.
Sen. Brent Cotter of the ISG is up now - with what he calls a technical legal question about the timing of the confirmation of the declaration of the Emergencies Act. Cotter makes a case that we aren't voting to extend the act, but to retroactively confirm its invocation.
Sen. Plett says he will offer a simple plumber's view instead. Says if you are being robbed, and the burgler gives up, you call off the troops.
Sen. Brazeau cautions Sen. Plett not to assume there was Indigenous support for the protest, given that there were people there pretending to be aboriginal, dressed up and making fun of Indigenous music. Now asks when the Conservatives have ever supported Indigenous protest.
(Note: Sen. Brazeau was appointed as a Conservative - and after many ups and downs - now sits as an unaffiliated Senator.)
Sen. Audette of the ISG asks Sen. Plett about the impact of the Emergencies Act in the future. Sen. Plett says he has confidence in CSIS, anti-terrorism investigators. He says there was only one smoke bomb set off in Ottawa and that was the extent of it.
Sen. Plett says there may have been Hell's Angels in the protest. He says there may have been a few people of ill repute there, but that they had the right to be there. Everybody had the right to be there.
If the police thought there were weapons or dangerous people on Wellington, says Plett, they would have acted. (Well. That is indeed the crux on this all.)
A question now from Sen. Jean-Guy Dagenais. (I misidentified him yesterday as a Conservative. But he crossed the floor some time ago to sit with the CSG.)
Sen. Dagenais asks Sen. Plett if Plett thinks the Prime Minister has shown disrespect fo the Senate and the House of Commons. Sen. Plett agrees.
• • •
Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to
force a refresh
Sen. Michele Audette, one of our newest senators, is speaking now. This is her first-ever Senate speech. She is an Indigenous senator from Quebec, and a long-time activist for Indigenous and women's rights.
She says, speaking in French, that she believes profoundly in the right to peaceful protest. She enumerates some of the many protests in which she, herself, has taken part, beginning with Idle No More.
The question she keeps asking herself is whether a three-week protest by Indigenous (or Black) activists would have been allowed to continue in this way. The answer, she says, is no.
Sen. Coyle asks Tannas a question about a poll he cited that said 39 % of Canadians oppose the act. Is that fair, she says, when many Canadians are misinformed and believe that this is the War Measures Act.
Sen. Tannas says the Emergencies Act has never been used and we've gone more than 30 years without it, despite difficult times for this country.
"I think Canadians know it is not a piece of legislation that should be used lightly," says Tannas. And they know it infringes on liberties. The poll, he says, highlights our divisions.
Sen. Tannas says the majority of trucks parked on Wellington Street were from Ontario & Quebec. Says he couldn't find an Alberta truck. Says this was a national protest, with groundswell of support from across this country. Says millions of Canadians identified with this protest.
Sen. Tannas says people came to protest government intrusion in their lives. Now, they are facing even more intrusion via the Emergencies Act. Tannas says we need an unflinching inquiry into the failures that led to this occupation.
Nonetheless, Sen. Tannas says the government did its job, and made the decision to invoke the Emergencies Act responsibly, based on the information they had at the time.
Good morning! The Senate is back in session, for a second full day of debate on Motion 17, the confirmation of the Emergencies Act. Starting a new thread this morning, as ISG senator David Arnot continues the speech he started yesterday. #SenCa#cdnpoli
The occupation of Ottawa, says Sen Arnot was not protected political protest. It was a well organized, well funded attempt to overthrow the government of Canada #SenCa#cdnpoli
Equally concerning, says Sen. Arnot, where the unpredecented border blockades. This extraordinary event required an extraordinary response, he says.
Up now with ISG Senator Kim Pate. The urgent events of the last week could have been prevented, she said. It didn't start as an emergency but became one. White supremist, populist ideas filled the minds of organizers.
But, Pate says, many of those who protested are people who feel left behind, abandoned and disenfranchised. The EA she says won't address the plight of the most marginalized or the divisions in our country.
Sen Pate says the full force of the law is often used to squash protest. Police, she says, tried to discourage her from going to her office, while waving protesters into the parliamentary precinct.
Hello! This is a NEW THREAD - now that Marc Gold's presentation is over. We are hearing now from Raymonde Saint-Germain, the facilitator (aka leader) of the @ISGSenate is speaking now. She receives 45 minutes in total speaking and question time. #SenCa#cdnpoli
Sen. Saint-Germain begins by speaking movingly about her memories of the FLQ crisis and the impact of the War Measures Act in her province of Quebec. #SenCa#cdnpoli
Sen. Saint-Germain says the Emergencies Act is less drastic than the War Measures Act, and has a requirement for provincial consultation. But she notes that only one premier, Doug Ford of Ontario, has publicly supported its invocation.