Thread by @MSS3RosaFerreum

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char Anti child support isn’t anti woman. When courts only awarded custody of children to fathers upon divorce or other martial separation, there was no child support and the custodial parent was responsible to independently support the child or children in that parent’s custody.

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char All y’all think women are children and inferior to all men (and even post-pubescent minor-aged boys) as you think mothers need child support payments and are incapable of raising children without such support as if being female was some kind of inherent disability. Sad.

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char Regarding when men always got custody in divorce, consider "Lagging Behind the Times: Parenthood, Custody, and Gender Bias in the Family Court" by Cynthia A. McNeely published in 1998 in Volume 25 of the _Florida State University Law Review_ page 891 (ir.law.fsu.edu/cgi/viewconten…).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "[T]he father [was designated] as the natural protector of children because he had the ability to provide for their financial support. Women were seen as incapable of handling legal or financial matters…." 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. 891, 897 (1998).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "Because fathers usually provided the family’s sole income through their employment away from the home [during the Industrial Revolution], this absence advanced the fathers' 'long march from the center to the periphery of domestic life.'" 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. at 898 (1998).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "Congress implemented the Talfourd Act of 1839 to legislate the presumption that courts should award custody of children under age seven to the mother." 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. at 897 (1998).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "This presumption became known as the 'tender-years doctrine,' which legalized for the first time the belief that mothers were better suited to raise children than fathers." 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. at 897 (1998).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "Eventually, 'the tender-years presumption became the rationale for awarding custody of children of all ages to the mother on a permanent basis.'" 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. at 899 (1998).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "[T]he continuous refrain throughout the last one hundred years has been that when it comes to childrearing, fathers are not that important." 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. at 914 (1998).

You might think the culprit was patriarchy, but it was actually feminism.

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char Consider "The Divorce Bargain: The Fathers’ Rights Movement and Family Inequalities" by Deborah Dinner published in 2016 in Volume 102 of the _Virginia Law Review_ beginning at page 79 (available at: virginialawreview.org/wp-content/upl…).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "[L]egal reforms enabling fathers to fulfill caregiving roles through joint custody would also enable mothers to fulfill breadwinning roles." 102 Virginia Law Review 128 (virginialawreview.org/wp-content/upl…).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "By promoting joint custody as well as sex-neutral spousal maintenance, …the [divorce] bargain liberalized gender roles within divorced families, offering a model of a more egalitarian family structure." 102 Virginia Law Review 142 (virginialawreview.org/wp-content/upl…).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char "Criticism of joint custody formed part of a broader critique among feminist legal theorists in the 1980s about what they perceived as an earlier generation of feminist reformers’ mistaken focus on same treatment." 102 Virginia Law Review 144 (virginialawreview.org/wp-content/upl…).

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char As outlined above, before labor-saving gizmos, men used to be awarded custody whenever the courts got involved and then the "tender years" doctrine came to be (which was advocated for by women) which led to sole custody being awarded to women and women getting child support.

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char However, men prior to the "tender years" doctrine had to be the household breadwinner (as such men got no child support then) and had to care for their children.

@shanoawarrior, why can't modern women handle the degree of responsibility on their own that historically men could?

@shanoawarrior @Assayer92 @cheomitII @Oneiorosgrip @HERterus @Lynnia00721169 @SpaghettiBadger @AmyNoMiddleNam3 @PickleMrs @saturdayobrien @JaneKn0wsBest @Krispi_Largo @JaePea02 @maxrenke @GanniTonya @melJsaysso @Kittie_Svengali @Mr5had0wX @M_DeWinter1844 @JohnathonDoeman @tabularasaTonyB @AliceTheGoon63 @ALReproRightsAd @Groucholiz @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @FHousebunny @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char @threadreaderapp, please unroll.