1/This should be investigated as this has been reported a lot the last few months—I wonder if Sars 2 has bred with another RNA virus and this the result? Unless isolates are taken of these cases then we don't know what's going on—but it could be Sars 2 heading in a terrible
https://twitter.com/BootstrapCook/status/1507001707854663693
2/...new direction, and if out turned to be the case would mean possible antigenic drift to the point at which the virus has evolves to from the original Sars 2 that it's a new virus—hence why it wouldn't show up on LFTs and PCRs.
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Many has postulated that such cases are in fact flu—I'm sorry but breathing problems is not a common symptom of flu and it's not flu season anymore—further cases of flu tend to limit to less than 1 week during acute phase.
Many has postulated that such cases are in fact flu—I'm sorry but breathing problems is not a common symptom of flu and it's not flu season anymore—further cases of flu tend to limit to less than 1 week during acute phase.
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As in the above case we have two people with breathing difficulties—this is just not something you see with flu normally: I've heard cases of people like whose Ox Sats drop to 90—again, this is not something typically seen in flu—AND EVEN IF IT WAS NOT ON THIS SCALE.
As in the above case we have two people with breathing difficulties—this is just not something you see with flu normally: I've heard cases of people like whose Ox Sats drop to 90—again, this is not something typically seen in flu—AND EVEN IF IT WAS NOT ON THIS SCALE.
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Theoretically Sars 2 can recombine not just with variants of itself as Deltacron has shown, but with any other RNA virus:
Including flu...
Theoretically Sars 2 can recombine not just with variants of itself as Deltacron has shown, but with any other RNA virus:
Including flu...
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Also possible that it is recombining with the common cold etc...but all of this should be investigated rather than ignored—if you have people with classic covid symptoms who have a disease course of 2-3 weeks, but don't show up on tests: that should be looked into
Also possible that it is recombining with the common cold etc...but all of this should be investigated rather than ignored—if you have people with classic covid symptoms who have a disease course of 2-3 weeks, but don't show up on tests: that should be looked into
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'If it quacks like a duck'...well, these symptoms are quacking like a duck, regardless of what the tests say: in which case, it's probably still a duck....maybe in a new form?
'If it quacks like a duck'...well, these symptoms are quacking like a duck, regardless of what the tests say: in which case, it's probably still a duck....maybe in a new form?
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There is another possibility of course: that the tests are faulty....
There is another possibility of course: that the tests are faulty....
9/ In response to this thread, UK Company director, scientist & humanist, Bryan Smith responded with the following—he's blocked me now(?) But I'm including the conversation here so as to add balance to the points I've made:
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It's a shame the conversation was cut short—however—as China CDC said in thier 'Grey Rhino' Deltacron warning recently recombination events between different families of viruses have been found in nature:
It's a shame the conversation was cut short—however—as China CDC said in thier 'Grey Rhino' Deltacron warning recently recombination events between different families of viruses have been found in nature:
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'Despite most recombination events occurring among species belonging to Coronaviridae, cross-family genetic recombination events had also been found in nature (between Coronaviridae and Reoviridae)'
'Despite most recombination events occurring among species belonging to Coronaviridae, cross-family genetic recombination events had also been found in nature (between Coronaviridae and Reoviridae)'
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'The frequent genetic recombination of CoVs would lead to the emergence of novel viruses. Further, the most important threat of the emergence of these novel recombinant viruses is the possibility of cross-species transmission'
'The frequent genetic recombination of CoVs would lead to the emergence of novel viruses. Further, the most important threat of the emergence of these novel recombinant viruses is the possibility of cross-species transmission'
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What the paper they reference highlights is the emergence of a novel coronavirus that likely emerges from such a recombination event:
What the paper they reference highlights is the emergence of a novel coronavirus that likely emerges from such a recombination event:
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'In the present study we report a novel coronavirus discovered from bat samples in China that has been tentatively named Rousettus bat coronavirus GCCDC1 (Ro-BatCoV GCCDC1)....
'In the present study we report a novel coronavirus discovered from bat samples in China that has been tentatively named Rousettus bat coronavirus GCCDC1 (Ro-BatCoV GCCDC1)....
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...Multiple lines of evidence indicate that Ro-BatCoV GCCDC1 may have arisen from a recombination event between an ancestral coronavirus and a fusogenic orthoreovirus.'
journals.plos.org/plospathogens/…
...Multiple lines of evidence indicate that Ro-BatCoV GCCDC1 may have arisen from a recombination event between an ancestral coronavirus and a fusogenic orthoreovirus.'
journals.plos.org/plospathogens/…
Reoviridae seen here: rotavirus (stomach bugs) is pat of this family of viruses:
'Rotaviruses, however, can cause severe diarrhea and intestinal distress in children, and lab studies in mice have implicated orthoreoviruses in the expression of coeliac disease in pre-disposed..
'Rotaviruses, however, can cause severe diarrhea and intestinal distress in children, and lab studies in mice have implicated orthoreoviruses in the expression of coeliac disease in pre-disposed..
...individuals'
Coronaviridae: I guess we all know what that is by now:
Coronaviridae: I guess we all know what that is by now:
That's a recombination between two families right there. Hence why I said that the negative LFTs when people have clear Covid symptoms should be researched further.
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