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Mar 26, 2022 9 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Vegans eat the least protein.
That doesn't mean they don't eat enough protein.
The RDA does not reflect individual requirement.

Here is a brief RDA tweetorial.

>50 years ago, individual protein requirements were assessed in rigorous studies.
Requirements ranged...
The estimated average requirement (EAR) was determined to be 0.66 g protein per kg body weight.

Hypothetical question: What if 100 individuals were provided with a day of food that contained EXACTLY the EAR....how many of them would NOT meet their individual requirement?
By definition, half the individuals would meet their requirement.

But there is also another subtle point to be made here, technically, 50% would meet OR EXCEED their requirement.

Get it, the range tends to be a normal distribution. Most people are either above or below ave.
The RDA's for protein, vitamins and minerals are calculated as being 2 std dev's above the EAR.
Why?
It's a population approach, not an individual approach

If the EAR were recommended, & everyone achieved ONLY that, then by definition half of the population would be deficient.
From a public health perspective, the RDA's are set to meet and/or exceed the individual requirements of the population.

Hypothetical question: What if 100 individuals were provided with a day of food that contained EXACTLY the RDA....how many of them EXCEED their requirement?
As intended, by definition, ~97% of those meeting the RDA exactly would be EXCEEDING their individual requirement (and 2.5% of them would fall short).

This means getting 70-90% of the RDA (i.e., <100%) would still meet and exceed individual requirements for most individuals.
You might be in that 2.5% that needs > RDA. To be safe, you might want to eat a bit more than the RDA...you'd probably need just a little more.

Interestingly, in the US, people eat a LOT MORE than the RDA, according to the National Health And Nutrition Examination Survey
Vegetarians should have no trouble meeting and exceeding their individual requirement.

Vegans need to be more conscious, but should not have a problem provided they have access to a reasonably diverse diet.

Even vegan body builders?
Ask @NimaiDelgado

vegnews.com/2017/6/vegan-b…
There is an important follow-up question.

When the RDA was established, what metric was being used for "requirement"?

Longevity?
Prevention of cancer or heart disease?
Nope.
Maintaining lean muscle mass.

Is that minimal, or optimal?

That will have to wait for another day.

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Jul 8, 2022
#KetoMedStudy: Nutrient Diffs

In our study we collected a lot of dietary data, primarily to characterize diets & report adherence

In supplemental tables we reported changes in NUTRIENTS on each diet phase

In this 🧵we share the nutrient changes

academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-l…
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Food Delivery

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For each 12-week phase of the study, participants received food deliveries for the first 4 weeks to maximize adherence.

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~0.2 = small diff
~0.5 = moderate diff
~0.8 = large diff
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Keto-Med Study: LDL size

Our study published today in @AJCNutrition examined several secondary clinical measures: fasting LDL-C, HDL-C, TG, glucose, insulin, ALT & weight

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🧵 LDL-size

academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-l…
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In fact, one of my first published papers was on this topic in 1996 (I feel old)

jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…
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Jul 8, 2022
Keto-Med Study – Main results

Thrilled our paper was accepted by @AJCNutrition.
Online version released today.
Open Access – free for all

Brief overview here 🧵

(Separate tweets will be sent out to address likely questions/comments, see end of 🧵)

academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-l…
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Mar 27, 2022
PROTEIN MATH GAME

I believe most people who have access to a reasonably diverse diet get ⬆️⬆️ protein than the RDA, especially athletes.

Do you?

Simple math

How much do you weigh?
Doubly-labeled water
% Protein in diet

@mackinprof – please check my math

Wanna play?
Let's start with the % of protein in your diet.
Do you have any idea what that might be?
You don't need to know to play.
If you know great,
If not, have some fun and guess.
Yesterday @ScepticalDoctor provided screen shot below (source?)
Meat eaters ~16%
Vegetarians ~13%
Vegans ~12.5%

@MrBigNoodle noted this:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23988511/
with higher amounts (although, in grams).

I find few examples in published lit. of ave’s outside the 15-20% range
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Mar 26, 2022
High vs. Low Protein

A few wks ago, @ScepticalDoctor & @theproof brought up this ??. I was too busy @ the time, & it's a tough topic - limited base of quality evidence to draw from.

Got more time now.

Time for a protein tweetorial?

For starters, how high is "high"?

g? %?
And how low is "low"?
There aren't correct answers. There is no consensus on grams or % of what qualifies as "low" or "high".

And there is the important consideration of plant vs. animal protein, and translating "protein" into "food". But I'll save that topic for another day.
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It Depends - Coffee vs Tea

I'm working on a book. One of the chapters will be Coffee vs Tea.

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Start with sweetener, do you add:

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