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Apr 5 22 tweets 5 min read
I got this appalling response in answer to a tweet about DOJ's investigations.

Too many people think we should "just arrest" Trump--because he obviously "committed crimes", he's a Bad Man, and he deserves it.

We've forgotten what The Rule of Law is about.

1/22
The Rule of Law does NOT mean swift punishment for criminals without the bother of due process, without trials, and without grand juries. The Rule of Law is not a vigilante mob lynching, nor an iron-fisted imposition of Order by Decree of the State.

2/22
The Rule of Law constrains =government=. It is a set of procedures, norms, and rules that protect those who can be accused of crimes.

In contrast:
• Mob "justice" is mere anarchy.
• Imposed order is fascism.

YES, we need "yet another LONG investigation."

3/22
The calls to "Just arrest him already" on some non-specific "crime", or for some vague notion of "treason", or because "we all saw him" do this or that, are calls for either fascist totalitarianism or mob rule. They are destructive to democracy and the idea of civilization.

4/22
No, Trump's public statements are =not= enough to get him arrested. They may be used as evidence in a trial to help show his intent, but by themselves they are not crimes.

Even if they were enough for an "arrest", that word doesn't mean what most people think.

5/22
An "arrest" won't lock him up, shut him up, stop his fundraising, deter his cult, solve the problem of Trumpian fascism, or restrict him in any substantive way. He'd be out on bail in an hour, free to travel and speak, and it'd be months (at least) until he went to trial.

6/22
If you think an "arrest" would automagically put Trump behind bars, then you know nothing about The Rule of Law, which requires an accused person to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court.

Because The Rule of Law constrains the State, not the accused.

7/22
To arrest someone on a felony charge requires an indictment, and to bring an indictment it's necessary to gather all the evidence that's going to be used at trial. After the indictment, prosecutors cannot continue to issue subpoenas or warrants. Because of The Rule of Law.

8/22
As soon as a suspect is arrested, the accused has the right to see all the evidence the State has gathered, in order to begin to mount a defense. Which means the State isn't allowed to gather more evidence after the indictment.

9/22
See, the State has to already be able to show it can prove the charges, or else the indictment couldn't have been issued in the first place. You can't arrest someone and then go get the evidence you need for court. You have to do the "long investigation" first.

10/22
There is such a thing as a "superseding indictment," in which the accused person is being investigated for several crimes, and is indicted on one of the lesser matters while investigations proceed on more serious charges. That would be a really bad idea in Trump's case.

11/22
First, as I already said, indicting on something lesser won't shut him up, or even impede him in any way. In fact, he'd raise money off the indictment, and his cult would go crazy and likely commit still more violence.

But there are even worse consequences.

12/22
Trump would have the right to see everything in the prosecutors' possession which is related to the charge on which he was indicted. But since all his crimes while in office were related, this would warn him about the other things DOJ is investigating him for.

13/22
It would also warn all his dozens of co-conspirators (Senators, Congresspeople, advisors, cronies, appointees, relatives, etc.) who would begin destroying evidence, fleeing the country, coordinating their stories, intimidating possible witnesses, and so on.

14/22
The alternative--arrest them ALL NOW! before the investigations are complete, before orderly indictments can be brought, before all the evidence is gathered--that way lies complete fascist authoritarianism.

If the State could do THAT, then YOU are in serious trouble.

15/22
Imagine if did away with the protections of The Rule of Law. Doomsayers already predict a Republican House and Senate this fall, and a Republican President in 2024. Imagine fascism rampant beginning 2025, with no restrictions at all.

Delete your Twitter account now.

16/22
But wait! you say. That's exactly why we have to LOCK UP TRUMP NOW! If Republicans take over, they =will= end democracy!!!

Weren't you listening?

A) Locking up Trump won't stop him or his cult.

B) If we "lock up Trump NOW!" then we've already ended democracy.

17/22
The only way to save democracy is to win elections. Abandoning The Rule of Law is a surrender to fascism, and won't stop Republican victories anyway.

The ONLY way to save democracy is to win elections.

That means YOU are the one who has to save democracy.

18/22
DOJ can't save democracy. DOJ can't stop Trumpism. Even if DOJ obeyed the bloodlust of the mobs calling for them to dO sOmEtHiNg NOW! that still wouldn't save democracy (that would, in fact, end democracy).

The only way to save democracy is to win elections.

#VoteBlue.

19/22
Yes, YOU have to do the work. There is no magic pill, no savior. If you want to get the things you want, YOU have to do the work of registering voters, getting them to the polls, and voting yourself. You have to be in this for the rest of your life.

20/22
You can't go back to not caring. Ever. YOU have to vote, you have to vote for Democrats, and you can never waste your vote on a third-party loser.

And you can never succumb to cynicism or doomerism. Vox populi vox dei; the voice of the People is the voice of God.

21/22
By the way, Trump can legally run for office even from the inside of a jail cell.

So yes, we need "yet another LONG investigation." To "just arrest him already" would be wrong, it would destroy democracy, and it wouldn't achieve anything anyway.

22/22

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Mar 31
What has DOJ been doing for a year? Why haven't they indicted Trump and the other coup planners?

I'll tell you a little bit of what they've been doing. They've established IN COURT that there was a coup attempt.

That's HUGE.

1/13
Working up from the crimes that were easy to indict DOJ has charged close to 800 people, now including about a dozen on "seditious conspiracy."

They've gotten two guilty pleas on that charge (i.e., CONVICTIONS), and at least one cooperating witness.

2/13
justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/lea…
Take a step back. Suppose Trump, Stone, Manafort, Cawthorn, Cruz, and others had been charged right away.

They'd all argue they'd simply engaged in First Amendment speech, didn't encourage violence, and the "protest" at the Capitol wasn't illegal anyway.

AND THEY'D WALK.

3/13
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We had come to expect elected the President would obey the laws, and allow records to be made that would let We the People know what happened during that presidency.

Trump ran the White House like a mob boss runs a criminal racket--no records, no proof, no accountability.
No, this is NOT normal. It's not legal. It's not consistent with democratic principles. It's also what someone does with consciousness of guilt, to cover up massive crimes and self-dealing.

Fortunately, we have a huge legal apparatus in the still-functioning part of government.
Yes, justice takes a long time, particularly when a mob boss worked hard to leave no traces of his crimes--though the lack of traces is, itself a crime, because of the Presidential Records Act, which requires those records be kept. (Thank Nixon for that.)
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It's good to create again.
Writers write. We can't help it. We're addicts. If we don't do it, withdrawal sets in, and we go more than a little nuts. Well, nuts-er. Writers are only marginally sane.

All fiction is fantasy, by definition, because it's things that didn't happen. We live half in other worlds.
My new project has the working title "Phage Space". That doesn't mean I've abandoned older, unfinished work. It means I need to kickstart the writing juice, which has lain dormant for too long. I've retired from menial (non-writing) labor. Now in the next chapter of my life.
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Mar 25
Unpopular take:

What Ginny Thomas did may be criminal; she may have engaged in a seditious conspiracy against the United States.

That confers no legal guilt or liability on her husband. I think he should resign, but there's nothing he can be charged with or impeached for.

1/2
If there is some proof he knew of his wife's criminal activities, and in some way participated in or assisted them, yes, he can be charged for that. But that would be difficult to prove, and no evidence of that has yet been reported.

As I said, unpopular take.

2/2
You'd have to prove he knew about it and decided as he did intentionally to assist the conspiracy. That would be difficult to prove. If you have evidence of that, you should give it to the 1/6 Committee.
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Mar 22
The attacks on the DOJ for "not doing enough" to prosecute the Jan 6 insurrectionists--

are THE SAME as the attacks on President Biden for "not doing enough" in Ukraine.

This is coordinated psyops to manipulate YOU.

The message is the same.

1/5
The macho gunslinger "just jump in there and DO IT!" demand is designed to turn you into an angry Republican.

That's how all rightist voters think. With their gonads and their muscles. No nuance. No brain. No strategy.

And hatred and distrust for democratic institutions.

2/5
The Biden Administration is methodical, careful, thoughtful, thorough, and NOT flashy. The cowboy rhetoric is intended to make you impatient with the wheels of democracy.

It's intended to turn you into a leftist Proud Boy.

And then fascism wins.

3/5
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Mar 20
Lesson:

Starting January of 2019, once Democrats took the House, the DoSoMeThInG! chorus demanded Trump be impeached. "Don't you know, he's putting immigrant children in CAGES???"

Yeah, we knew that, but we told them an impeachment wouldn't stop it.

1/5
Well, Trump was impeached, and (as predicted) the Senate didn't convict, and Trump kept putting children in cages until we voted that fucker out of office--which we'd said all along was the only way to stop his policies.

2/5
Well, now the DoSoMeThInG!s are demanding Trump and all his former henchmen be indicted, jailed, convicted IMMEDIATELY! to save democracy.

That won't save democracy. There's a long line of fascists waiting to take their places.

3/5
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