1/ Peri-retirement in NHS & Pension Tax 🧵 + free tool- #doesntpaytostay

This is a *super* important thread. Sorry it's complicated, pls read ALL carefully & share/RT. Its vitally important you #knowYOURnumbers so @BMA_Pensions built a free tool to help - you could save >£100k Image
2/ @TheBMA @BMA_Pensions have been saying for years, that its crucially important we RETAIN the senior experienced workforce. There are a number of important levers to do this, including pay, pensions & pension taxation. Image
3/ As the annual & lifetime allowances have been whittled away over the years, the number of senior doctors opting for early retirement has increased as it simply #doesntpaytostay- particularly for those affected by BOTH the annual & lifetime allowances Image
4/ As we have repeatedly pointed out to treasury & elsewhere in government, higher rate tax relief is removed *in its entirety* by unprecedented steep tiering not seen in ANY other public sector scheme Image
5/ This will remain the case when new contributions structures for @nhs_pensions are introduced in October 2022 - the NHS will continue to have the steepest tiering of all public sector schemes. That's completely unjustified in a CARE scheme and removes *all* higher rate relief Image
6/ Despite having removed all higher rate relief from tiering, this (non-existent) higher rate relief is then removed by the Annual Allowance (and tapering for higher earners) and again the (non-existent) relief is limited via the lifetime Allowance. Image
7/ The net result of that, as per @The_BMA modelling with our actuarial advisors, is high earners in the NHS scheme can end up paying up to 10x the amount towards the pension for each pound of pension. This is clearly completely unfair and completely unjustified.
8/ The NHS is clearly in a difficult place. As the waiting list graphs above in tweet 2 show, it is somewhat disingenuous to call this "COVID-19" backlog. These problems have been building for years, & punitive pension taxation is the elephant in the room. Image
9/ Despite this, pensions get only a passing mention in the plans to resolve the backlog- the only stated plan to improve this situation "regional pension seminars to explain how the schemes
work and debunk common myths, to enable staff to make informed decisions" Image
10/ At @The_BMA we agree it is vital our members make "informed decisions". So we have made a simple & free to use tool to allow 1995 officer members >59 to explore their options. We are grateful to @gdcuk for cross checking & agreeing the underlying maths. Image
11/ Sorry the tool is not for 2008 scheme members who have a later retirement age and can access 'late retirement factors' (and a more complicated pension that cant be accomodated in a simple ready reckoner), nor GPs who have a 1995 CARE pension. Image
12/ The tool has two "case studies" - one is the same as case study used recently by NHSEI & another (shown below) - who is a 60 year old consultant at the top of the payscale with CEA7 & 5% on call. Image
13/ By default the tool shows retirement in April '22 versus delaying retirement to April '23. We have suggested figures for inflation in September (8%), and the current proposed pay award recommended by DHSC (2%). You can model your own predictions. Image
14/ This risks an unprecedented pay cut not only to pay, but also final salary pension - & therefore each month that is worked in 22/23 potentially "bakes in" any pay cut to final salary (& your pension). Image
15/ Conversely the date of your retirement in 22/23 is based on your date of retirement, and the prevailing rate of inflation in September of each year - estimated as follows based on what September CPI will be (again you can choose your own estimates). Image
16/ So what does it mean for our example consultant? They could retire now and achieve a pension (after LTA reduction) of £60,196. After uprating by September 2022 CPI that would be £65,011 in April 2023. Image
17/ Or by delaying retirement by 1 year they would get extra pension in the new 2015 scheme which would need reduction as retiring before state pension age, but by baking in a subinflatonary pay award, pension in April 2023 will be £62,843 Image
18/ So the effect of delaying retiremenent has resulted in a pension LOWER by £2,168 - every of year of their retirement. This doesn't include the £60,196 you have given up in pension by not retiring age 60 . Image
19/ That example also doesnt include any potential AA liability- if you want to see potential AA charges you can provide carry forward/ threshold income to see what effect that has - so in the example below the consultant would also get a £9.8k charge! Image
20/ So this example consultant would need to pay another £20k in pension contributions, plus an AA charge, all to receive a LOWER pension. For them it clearly #doesntpaytostay - but its important to look at your own numbers.

bma.org.uk/doesntpaytostay Image
21/ Many senior clinicians will still have a lot to give and may wish to stay in the service with "Retire & Return" - we have included a net pay modeller to estimate net pay & pension if you return - in this example they get comparable net pay at 6.5 PAs but #knowyournumbers Image
22/ Clearly the numbers in the tool may shock many people. This year is unusual due to high inflation (and potentiual therefore for an unprecedented pay cut which is driving this modelling based on the DHSC pay recommendation). Image
23/ But high inflation will also cause havoc with Annual Allowance (due to disconnect between inflation years used in AA and revaluation) & other factors which we have been warning government like the scheme design (lack of "late retirement factors").
24/ So what do @TheBMA think the govmnt needs to do if they want to really​ improve retention & encourage people to stay beyond 60. Lots of people will get 7 more years in 1995 thanks to McCloud which will focus minds. Govmnt need to act **NOW**.
25/ 1️⃣ FIX PENSION TAX.  For high earners, particularly those affected by both the LIFETIME ALLOWANCE and ANNUAL ALLOWANCE, this SERIOUSLY reduces the value of building up additional pension when over both of these limits.
26/ The Lifetime Allowance was frozen in 2021 (it previously kept up with inflation). With high inflation, the LTA is becoming seriously eroded over time. Image
27/ Government knew this was a problem for judges, who had similar recruitment / retention issues to doctors- and they fixed it with a tax unregistered scheme.
They could do the same for doctors / other high earners in the scheme. Image
28/ It’s completely fair to taxpayers as well - you wouldn’t get tax relief on contributions, but then pension earned in that scheme is not tested against the Annual or Life Time Allowances.
29/ Once a member of staff moved over to the “tax unregistered” scheme they could carry on working as many hours as they wish, for as long as they wish, without worrying about falling foul of complex pension taxation rules.
30/ With record waiting lists, the only way to make a dent in the short and medium time is to improve retention - this could make a serious difference to that.
31/ 2️⃣ FIX PAY- your final salary pension (consultants not GPs) is linked to your pay. In real terms, your pay has gone down circa 30% in a decade. The longer you wait till retirement, you risk further sub-inflationary pay cuts being baked into your pension.
32/ With inflation running higher than expected this year, there’s a risk of a record breaking sub-inflationary pay award - and the pay recommendations from DHSC do not make good reading that this will be fixed anytime soon. Image
33/ 3️⃣ FIX PENSIONS. There's a serious anomaly in the 1995 section. You have been paying into the pension assuming you draw pension at 60. If you don't retire at 60, under current rules you are BURNING pension.
34/ Yes the final salary link remains, but you should get an ACTUARIALLY INCREASED pension if you retire later. Thats the exact opposite of the 4-5% year reduction you get by going early. Not only is this fair, it is exactly what happens in the 2008 and 2015 sections👇.
35/ Go later than 60 and you are burning pension unless they introduce "late retirement factors". Image
36/ There you have it @sajidjavid @RishiSunak @Jeremy_Hunt. If you haven't already, please read this entire thread carefully. We believe there is an existential threat to the NHS. But this is all fixable, by government. @NHSMillion
37/ To summarise #saveournhs
1️⃣ FIX PENSION TAX - like you have for judges
2️⃣ FIX PAY - down 30% in a decade - with high inflation biggest risk ever to pay & pensions
3️⃣ FIX PENSIONS - late retirement factors
38/ If govmnt really​ want to fix retention (& they *really*​ need to), they must resolve these issues. If it #doesntpaytostay people will leave. Make sure you #knowyournumbers

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Jun 21
1/ Very grateful to @wesstreeting for tackling medical retention head on today

"First we would take immediate practical steps. Why is it that government is sat idly by while doctors are forced to retire early for no other reason than a cap on their pension contribution, which ..
2/4 means they have a financial penalty for staying on. Lets change the rules to keep the good doctors that we have" said @wesstreeting

I completely agree 💯

More than in any year previously on record, there is an urgent need to act (see below👇)

3/4 We in @BMA_Pensions are always happy to offer our knoweldge & expertise around the problems of punitive pension taxation, & how government can fix them (which they desperately need to due to recrod waiting lists)
Read 4 tweets
Jun 18
1/44 A really important long read🧵 updating on June @CommonsHealth. Pls read *all* carefully/share/watch clips & share/RT. Some really important updates including very grateful for SOS @sajidjavid showing central support for ♻️
2/44 🧵 on June 2nd @CommonsHealth- important updates following further superb questioning by GP/MP @drlukeevans @Jeremy_Hunt

1️⃣Taper tweak-why it didn’t fix the problem
2️⃣Tax unregistered why it will work (& “flexibility” won’t work)
3️⃣@sajidjavidgives green light to recycling
3/44 Please take time to watch the clips / read the transcripts. Some important info in here, and for what its worth, some analysis from me!

So lets start with
1️⃣Taper tweak-why it didn’t fix the problem

Watch the video and I'll explain my thoughts
Read 44 tweets
May 28
1/46 If you are a doctor this may have landed on your mat. Some more info for GPs, consultants & some crucial new info following @CommonsHealth this week. Sorry its long read🧵 Pls read all carefully/share. Needs fixing, by government NOW. What will, & importantly WONT work. Image
2/46 The full online @bmj_latest @ingridtorjesen
article is here 👇which has more important info. I would suggest reading the full version

bmj.com/content/377/bm…
3/46 The full article contained a subtle but important error (caused by the editing process of a long & complex subject, but removal of two crucial words completely changed the meaning!) so please read alongside this rapid response which I thought needed urgent correction Image
Read 47 tweets
May 21
1/46 Today @BMA_Pensions have written to @BMA_GP highlighting urgent issues regarding Annual Allowance in 22/23 related to inflation & *manifestly wrong* way AA is calculated. A vitally important 🧵 incl free tool. Pls read all carefully/share. Needs fixing, by government. NOW Image
2/46 I am afraid this is, like all things related to pensions tax, rather complicated. Please bear with me, and *read to the end*. Whilst this particular issue is focussed on GPs, there are similar issues for all members with 2015 pensions now & in future.
3/46 We need to start at the beginning. Buckle up. OK in the NHS pension scheme there is very steep tiering of contribution rates (unlike any other large public sector scheme). Image
Read 46 tweets
Nov 13, 2021
1/22 What is the "cost control mechanism" & why are @TheBMA @BMA_Pensions preparing to go to court over it. An explainer 🧵

You can see the detail of @BMA_Pensions case here👇 read on to understand what it means. Its complicated so stay with me (& pls RT)
2/n

OK to understand the the "cost control" mechanism we need to revisit history of the NHS pension scheme (and other similar pension schemes).

In yesteryear you gave a lifetime of public service & (deservingly) got a good “final salary” pension.
3/n

Back in those good old days, you paid 5 or 6% gross salary & got "80ths" for each year.

For example you worked 37 years & final salary £120k, pension= 37/80ths x £120k=£55,500 (& in the old days no AA/LTA but that's another matter!)
Read 22 tweets
Oct 10, 2021
1/ A thread about annual allowance in 20/21👇
[+ new free tool]

Many will have received a nasty brown envelope from @nhs_pensions this week. If you have (and even if you haven't) you may need to take action. Pay attention and share (please RT) with colleagues who may need this! Image
2/ OK if you already have statements for 20/21 (& if you are member of two schemes i.e. 1995 & 2015 you need TWO statements) you can miss this step.

But if you are a high earner (say >£100k) and you haven't, request one today (it can take 3 months)

bit.ly/TGPSSrequest21 Image
3/ Next you need to establish if you have an AA liability in 20/21. To do that you can use the free HMRC calculator. Its not that straightforward, but I would *strongly* advise to do your own calculations, even if you have an accountant/advisor.
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