Thread by @JoshuaCypess

1/ First, I really appreciate hearing from you about what I wrote. You're much more of an expert, and have more experience, than I have and you're also much more in the trenches, so that means I take what you say very seriously.

https://twitter.com/frumfollies/status/1514414265758883846?s=20&t=-I2FHYHnYl5eKADhVGax1A

2/ I am worried that I was unclear with my thoughts because now a few people have come to conclusions I did not intend. Such is the price of social media writing. (I'm writing this on my phone too, but I want to clear this up ASAP)

3/ But this is a deadly serious subject and I do not want to hurt people by saying things unartfully. I will try first to restate my basic principles and if it still doesn't make sense I will be happy to talk with you over the phone.

4/ My suggested plan has nothing to do with any existing organizations. I don't suggest using a Beit Din, I'm using the model of justice in halakha because it's a recognized system of fairness.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaCypess/status/1513914668678582275?s=20&t=fJq3UrdCdQVmhAaIO4-awA

5/ I'm also trying to change the paradigm that these cases have been conducted with in the past. This is why I emphasized the point that we as a community have ceded power to the wrong mechanisms in the past and cannot continue to do so.

6/ Our community has accepted a bad model. We let the abusive organization to conduct their own internal review and declare themselves clean. Its stupefying to see it again and again.

7/ the Zabla paradigm states that no investigation can be legitimate unless both sides have representatives, with power, and then agree on a third.

8/ If we as a community demand this type of equity we will make it clear that any investigation that doesn't include the victims voice and equal power will be unjust.

9/ If the accused organization stonewalls? That's a sign of bad faith and they cam be held guilty. If they release findings without 2 of the arbitrators? Again, its unjust and will be part of the starting assumptions as such.

10/ Ultimately, this is a plan that's a plea for the community to recognize what's justice and what's a cover up. So far, I've only seen cover ups. And that persists because of deep pockets and power asymmetries and the bully club of making the victims re- traumatize themselves.

11/ This what I think is the greatest need: to find a way to take the victim out of the process - something the American legal system, especially civil cases, don't avoid either. The abusers know this too.

12/ E.g. we see Dr. Blasey Ford pour her heart and soul out in front of millions which filled her abusers with joy. I'm trying to find a way to avoid that grievous harm which should be unnecessary once an advocate I set-up.

13/ That's all I can write for now; I'm sorry if this is not still being clear enough. But my intention is to create a new system. If it still doesn't sound like it will work then I will personally go back to the drawing board.

Thank you for your time.

14/ @threadreaderapp please unroll.