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Apr 16 10 tweets 5 min read
Another thread from a community college prof supporting #AB1705, the follow up bill for #AB705. Let’s break down the main datapoint cited by opponents @ASM_Irwin @AsmJoseMedina @AsmStevenChoi68 @ChrisHoldenNews @FrankBigelowCA (1/10)
Opponents point out that success rates in transfer-level courses declined after #AB705. When you look at students *who were allowed to enroll directly in a transfer-level course* you see that the % of students passing has dipped statewide. This is true. But also misleading (2/10)
In isolation, this datapoint implies that students are being harmed by #AB705 and that remedial courses are still needed. In reality, every demographic group examined to date has higher completion when they begin in a transfer-level course, not a remedial one (3/10)
When you focus only on students allowed to enroll in transfer-level classes, you obscure from view all the capable students who began in remedial classes and never made it to transfer level. The outcomes look better pre-AB705 because most students are omitted from the data (4/10)
Pre-AB705, 15% of students who started 2 remedial classes below transfer level would complete transferable math in 3 years, while 85% did not. The overwhelming failure of this structure is hidden when we look only at students enrolled in transfer-level classes. (5/10)
Now that previously excluded students can begin directly in transfer-level courses, completion rates have increased from 49% to 67% in English and from 26% to 50% in math (2015-2019). Looking at *all* students, we see the tremendous positive impact of #AB705 (6/10) Image
The other misleading thing about focusing on transfer-level pass rates is that before AB 705, only 20% of students began in transfer-level classes. It’s not surprising to get higher pass rates when you exclude 80% of students from a course (7/10)
Before AB705 pass rates were also artificially inflated because 78% of students repeated one or more high school math classes. If the students taking Precalculus have already passed Precalculus – and maybe even Calc I – a good success rate is again not surprising (8/10)
I agree that we need to do more to help students struggling in transfer-level classes. We need to learn to teach a broader range of students and provide better academic and non-academic support. And community colleges are already under-resourced and stretched thin (9/10)
But remedial classes are not the solution for struggling students. We can’t use a rhetoric of student “choice” to maintain ineffective, inequitable structures. We must listen to student leaders who urge us to support #AB1805 @SSCCC_OFFICIAL @SMAC_CCSF (10/10) Image

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Apr 14
Whew – there is a LOT of misinformation about #ab1705! As a community college prof, I’m frustrated that faculty organizations are opposing the bill. Here’s a thread on why we must support #ab1705 @ASM_Irwin @AsmJoseMedina @AsmStevenChoi68 @ChrisHoldenNews @FrankBigelowCA (1/13)
By ensuring that capable students weren’t trapped in remedial courses, #AB705 dramatically increased student completion of transferable, college-level English and math (2/13) Image
Overall, students who begin in transfer-level courses are nearly 3x more likely to complete transfer-level English & over 4x more likely to complete transfer-level math (3/13) Image
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