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Apr 23 30 tweets 15 min read
Part 6️⃣ in my extremes of animal physiology #tweetorial series:

Case 1: How low can PaO2 go?

You are called by the lab about an abnormal ABG result.
pH 7.5 / PaCO2 20 / PaO2 22 / HCO3 15

“That’s gotta be venous” they say.
“No” you reply, “Its from a ___"
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Answer: bar-headed goose!

The Himalayan summits are almost lifeless.

In the midst of this barren landscape, breathless climbers have heard the thrum of wings & the honking of geese above their heads.

How can these geese breathe so easily while flying at over 8000m?
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Bar headed geese have many amazing adaptions to altitude: large hearts, specialized hemoglobins, highly capillarized muscles with dense mitochondria, and cerebral insensitivity to hypocapnia.

But most of all they have amazing lung physiology!

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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Unlike mammalian lungs with reciprocating airflow in & out, birds have continuous airflow from cranial to caudal air sacs.
This reduces dead space & enables a denser network of airways & blood vessels, with a highly efficient countercurrent exchange.
erj.ersjournals.com/content/29/1/11
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Clinical aside: countercurrent flow across thin tubules also explains why an ECMO membrane lung is so efficient.

Look at this oxygenator I cut open: Just like the bird lung, gas flow is opposite to the direction of blood flow.

Countercurrents rock!
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How about climbers?
Their ABG has a greater respiratory alkalosis than a goose
We know because 4 climbers drew femoral ABGs at 8400m (at rest w/o supplemental O2)

PaO2 of 24 & SpO2 of 54%1 These are truly the limits of human physiology!
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19129527/
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This bring up an important question: how do we measure ABGs in flying birds?
Answer: we don’t!

To measure ABGs, they *simulated* high altitude flight by running geese on treadmills under hypoxic conditions!
Yes that Goose has a Swan!
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2506620/
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How good are bird lungs? Or put another way, how high can birds fly?
We don’t know!

We know that Rüppell's Griffon Vulture can fly to *at least* 37,000 feet because one got struck by an airliner at that altitude.

37,000 feet (11,300m) has an O2 tension of just 36 mmHg!
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Case 2: extreme bronchoscopy

Some docs feel like it's too hard to perform a bronchoscopy outside the controlled environment of the bronch suite.

In which of the following situations has bronchoscopy been successfully performed?
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Answer: all of the above!

🐘 Elephants *frequently* contract TB. Bronchoscopy has been performed in elephants (it doesn’t look easy) & apparently a trunk nerve block helps!

bit.ly/3EH7zoi
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Clinical 🥡:
TB is common in elephants (2% of Africa Elephants & 12% of Asian Elephants have TB).
People who work around elephants can get TB from them. Remember this the next time you evaluate a zookeeper with fevers & night sweats!

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🐬 bronchoscopy is possible but has some challenges.

First the laryngeal spout - an amazing water/pressure tight organ - must be anesthetized & passed, but it only opens for a fraction of a second.
This makes navigating human vocal cords seem easy!
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Once past the laryngeal spout and within in the trachea, don’t be fooled by a tracheal bronchus!

Many animals including 🐘, 🐐, 🐫, 🐋,🐖, and 1% of humans have a tracheal bronchus.

See my prior 🧵 for more on pig bronchi:

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Clinical 🥡:
Tracheal bronchi can cause unexplained lobar collapse in intubated people if the ETT occludes the opening. This can cause unexplained hypoxemia + RUL collapse.
Always consider a pig bronchus on your differential for upper lobe collapse in the ICU!
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Finally, there are some unique challenges to interventional pulmonary procedures in dolphins.
For example, you can’t use electrocautery in an animal that has to stay wet!

I highly recommend this article for:
atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.15…
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Side-note: great figure legend & denouement!
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Galloping horses do sometimes develop stridor.
Even a small tracheal stenosis can cause big problems when your minute ventilation at peak exercise is >1600 L/min!

How can you evaluate exercise induced wheezing in a thoroughbred horse?
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Bronchoscopy, of course: turns out it is possible to perform bronchoscopies in galloping horses (on a treadmill) to evaluate for dynamic airway collapse! Crazy!
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19562896/


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Case 3: extreme uremia
You are called about “a very abnormal chemistry panel”
“This has gotta be incompatible with life!” the caller exclaims “They need dialysis ASAP!"
“Not so” you reply, “that’s normal for a ___”
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Sodium 282 mmol/L
Potassium 7.3
Chloride 290
Bicarb 3
BUN 1004 mg/dL
Creatinine < 0.1

Osmolarity 1094 mOsm/Kg

This is a normal BMP for a ___
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Answer: 🦈 Shark

Sharks are osmoconformers, meaning they adjust their internal osm to match the environment, mostly by retaining urea.
The average osmolality of the ocean is 1000 mOsm/L so that’s what shark’s blood is too!
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Interestingly, some 🦈 like the Bull shark are diadromous meaning they can transition between fresh water and salt water.

This requires them to radically alter their blood chemistry - particularly BUN - gradually over a week.

Why gradually?
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As the 🦈 transitions from salt to fresh water, its kidneys excrete urea.
Urea shifts out of the cells into the blood, *gradually* decreasing the intracellular Osms.
If the 🦈 dropped its BUN too fast its cells would swell, which would look something like this:
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Clinical 🥡:
People with renal failure can have very high BUN too (like over 200!)
Removing BUN too quickly with dialysis can cause cells to swell.

What’s the solution?
Add urea to the dialysate to limit how fast urea can drop!
academic.oup.com/ndt/article/16…
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Wrong answers:
In contrast to sharks, which are osmoconformers, Camels, dolphins, and chinchilla are osmoregulators.
They try to maintain a blood chemistry that's dissimilar from their environment. And how they do it is pretty cool!
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Camels crank up their renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system (RAAS) to retain salt/fluid when dehydrated.

Camels can tolerate >20 days without water & their Na rises to 175!
But if they take losartan (blocking RAAS) they become even more hypernatremic!
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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Clinical 🥡:
For people, like camels, taking ACE inhibitors is a major risk factor for dehydration under hot conditions.
Remember that people on ACEi are at risk for AKI & dehydration. Be suspicious for dehydration in elderly people taking ACEIs!
journals.plos.org/plosone/articl…
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🐪🐫 Side-bar: My son wanted to shared a great mnemonic for remembering the types of camels.
Bactrian - B shaped - two humps
Dromendary - D shaped - one hump

(we even made an infographic about it!)
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Check out my prior thread for more how desert animals can retain water - including how amazing the Chinchilla is: it can concentrate it's urine to > 7500 mOsm/L (thats a SG > 10.60!)

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I hope you’ve enjoyed part 6 in my series on what the extremes of animal physiology can teach us about critical care medicine.

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Apr 23
Fun fact: in sauropod dinosaurs the recurrent laryngeal nerve (RLN) may have been up to 28 meters long!

For context:
in humans the RLN is ~10 cm long
in giraffes the RLN is ~5 meters long
in sauropods the RLN was ~28 meters!

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This makes the sauropods RLN one of the longest cells ever!

How did neurotransmitters get to the end of this 28m nerve?

Recall that fast axonal transport moves cargo at 200-400 mm/day & slow axonal transport is more like 1 mm/day (this is why nerve healing is so slow btw!)
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Apr 19
🧵of 🧵s on comparative animal physiology in the ICU

Part 1️⃣:
Which animal raises its lactate to ~200 mMol/L?
What animal has a normal body temp of 110F (43C)?
Which animal has RBCs with an MCV of 550?
Why can vampire bats teach us about GI bleeds?


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Part 2️⃣:
What's a normal blood pressure for a 🦒giraffe? What about a dinosaur 🦕?
Can you live with a hemoglobin of ZERO. Ask the arctic icefish!🐟
Why is thrombocytopenia normal in hibernation?
Which animal can concentrate it's urine to 9000 mOsm?


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Part 3️⃣: animal lessons for pulmonary consults

Why does a pig 🐖 bronchus matter on bronchoscopy?
What does a Buffalo 🦬 have in common with people who have had chest surgery?
Why is it impossible for an elephant to get a pneumothorax?
Which animal has the highest VO2max?
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Apr 18
Important negative study: non randomized trial finds no clinical benefit to awake proning vs usual care in COVID

No difference in rates of intubation, length of stay, or 28 day mortality

Medicine is humbling. This emphasizes the importance of trials
📄jamanetwork.com/journals/jamai…
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One criticism is that patients in the intervention group only spent a mean of 4.2 hours/day actually prone.

This is valid. However, as you can see the IQR was quite wide. Many patients were prone for more.

(Side bar: it’s odd to use 1.5 x IQR as the whiskers on the plot.)
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I wish the authors had looked at the subgroup that spent more time prone to see if they had better outcomes.

This analysis could easily be biased - people who are doing better may tolerate prone positioning for longer - but it would have been an interesting datapoint.

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Apr 17
At long last, here is part 5️⃣ in my animal #physiology in the ICU series #FOAMed

Case 1: You are called about a very high blood glucose (BG) value: 738 mg/dL (41 mM)!

The RN asks if you want to start an insulin drip. You say no, it’s totally normal because the patient is a:
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Answer: Hummingbird

Part of it's adaptation to energy intensive activities (flying, hovering) the Hummingbird maintains a very high blood glucose:
Fasting: >300 mg/dL
Fed: >700 mg/dL

That's right - a fasting hummingbird has a higher blood glucose than almost any fed mammal!
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The wrong answers: 🐑
A sheep’s normal blood glucose is 25-50 mg/dL! (among the lowest of all mammals!)

A sheep with a fasting blood glucose of 90 mg/dl would likely be diabetic!
publish.csiro.au/cp/AR9500182
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Apr 6
Here’s a fun ICU riddle - why do these two different patients both have funny colored effluent in their CRRT bags?

#FOAMed #FOAMcc

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One patient received methylene blue (causing green urine & effluent) and the other received hydroxycobalamin (causing dark red urine & effluent).

But what do these two cases have in common?

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The explanation is that both of these patients had vasopressor refractory shock.

Both methylene blue and hydrocobalamin can be used for refractory distributive shock.

Methylene blue
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

Hydroxycobalamin
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

But why?
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Q: What do🐍 snakes have to do with ICU pharmacology?
A: A lot! We use 💊medications derived from snake venom every day in fact!

Buckle up for a fun 🧵of #UnusualDrugDiscovery & #HistoryOfMedicine about medications derived from from 🐍☠️snake venom! #FOAMed #FridayFun
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First a question: which of the following snake venoms have been used to develop medical therapies?

(don't worry we’ll go over the answer at the end)
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It was long known that workers in banana plantations would collapse due to low blood pressure if they were bitten by the Brazilian Arrow Headed Pit Viper Bothrops jararaca.

A Brazilian graduate student - Sergio Ferreira - thought this could be useful...
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