“Lies, propaganda and fake news: A challenge for our age”
“There is a large proportion of the population in the US living in what we would regard as an alternative reality,”
bbc.com/future/article…
“There is a large proportion of the population in the US living in what we would regard as an alternative reality,”
bbc.com/future/article…
“For the rumours we looked at, the number of followers of people who tweeted the rumour was much larger than the number of followers of those who corrected it,” he says."
“The audiences were also largely disjointed. Even when a correction reached a lot of people and a rumour reached a lot of people, they were usually not the same people. The problem is, corrections do not spread very well.”
Stage 1: Demand: Boosting up a career (part 4)
March 2021:
“A report claims that she’s made the switch to a major label, leaving 4AD, the label she released her most successful projects to date, ‘Visions’ (2012), ‘Art Angels’ (2015) and ‘Miss Anthropocene’ (2020).”
March 2021:
“A report claims that she’s made the switch to a major label, leaving 4AD, the label she released her most successful projects to date, ‘Visions’ (2012), ‘Art Angels’ (2015) and ‘Miss Anthropocene’ (2020).”
December 2021:
“Grimes is expected to drop a new album called Book 1 in 2022. However, after that the experimental musician is apparently considering a change in careers.”
“Grimes is expected to drop a new album called Book 1 in 2022. However, after that the experimental musician is apparently considering a change in careers.”
“Before you worry too much, she told fans that she isn't leaving music behind. However, the "Violence" hit-maker took to Twitter to make it very clear that she is sick of being a celebrity.”
“This is not the first time the musician has slammed celebrity culture.”
“This is not the first time the musician has slammed celebrity culture.”
“Earlier this year, she photographed strolling around Los Angeles, reading a copy of Karl Marx's The Communist Manifesto and wearing a costume that looked like it came from a post apocalyptic elf movie.”
According to her,she's being chased by paparazzi,but no real life pictures?
According to her,she's being chased by paparazzi,but no real life pictures?
If we look at the charts records of ‘Player of Games’, it hasn’t brought her the success she was hoping.
The song ‘Player of Games’ debuted on 18th December 2021 and was only 1-7 weeks on the billboard charts.
Is a new career boost needed again?
The song ‘Player of Games’ debuted on 18th December 2021 and was only 1-7 weeks on the billboard charts.
Is a new career boost needed again?
And then there was the interview of VF in March 2022 with the title “Infamy Is Kind Of Fun”: Grimes on Music, Mars, and Her Secret New Baby With Elon Musk”.
Grimes is back in the spotlights again!
vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/…
Grimes is back in the spotlights again!
vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/…
But how trustworthy is Grimes?
Grimes is known for trolling.
In the VF interview it’s confirmed she made false stories in the past and people believed her.
Looking at the title, does the meaning of 'infamy' reflect her act?
Grimes is known for trolling.
In the VF interview it’s confirmed she made false stories in the past and people believed her.
Looking at the title, does the meaning of 'infamy' reflect her act?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1372698495472304133?s=20&t=dOQvGofJ8j9zmi2k_iyWIA
Stage 2: Resistance: Let people know what's going on.
VF has 2 titles regarding the interview with Grimes. The first was shared online in March and the other with the title ‘Planet Grimes’ in April 2022 as a magazine.
archive.vanityfair.com/article/2022/4…
VF has 2 titles regarding the interview with Grimes. The first was shared online in March and the other with the title ‘Planet Grimes’ in April 2022 as a magazine.
archive.vanityfair.com/article/2022/4…
The second title ‘Planet Grimes’ gives more a feeling of a fantasy story than an interview.
What is the reason to have 2 titles?
What is the reason to have 2 titles?
Grimes hasn’t considered going together to Mars, what seems weird if you already have discussed this with your partner.
Is it just another lie?
The writer had an interesting take on it:
“Maybe it really is all just a simulation, but it still makes her smile.”
Is it just another lie?
The writer had an interesting take on it:
“Maybe it really is all just a simulation, but it still makes her smile.”
Interesting is how Liv describes the relationship:
"“They’re both such deeply original thinkers,” says Liv Boeree, … “The lines blur with them about whether it's even art versus engineering or science, because really we're talking about creating something that does not exist."
"“They’re both such deeply original thinkers,” says Liv Boeree, … “The lines blur with them about whether it's even art versus engineering or science, because really we're talking about creating something that does not exist."
Also Radhika Jones in VF editor’s letter use the wording ‘Planet Grimes’:
“Then there’s her relationship with Elon Musk, known to the rest of Earth as its richest man as well as one of its most stratospherically ambitious and idiosyncratic,.."
vanityfair.com/culture/2022/0…
“Then there’s her relationship with Elon Musk, known to the rest of Earth as its richest man as well as one of its most stratospherically ambitious and idiosyncratic,.."
vanityfair.com/culture/2022/0…
"but who, on Planet Grimes, plays more of a sidekick role as fellow futurist brainiac, Mars aspirant, and co-parent (more on that in Devin’s revealing piece).”
Is the name ‘Planet Grimes’ a reference to the idiom ‘living on another planet’, which refers to someone who is out of touch with reality?
“Elon has yet to publicly comment on the split, or on any other details of the interview, including the birth of his newborn daughter, who is sister to their first-born child, X.”
Why is Elon, who advocates population growth, silent about his 'daughter'?
dailymail.co.uk/femail/article…
Why is Elon, who advocates population growth, silent about his 'daughter'?
dailymail.co.uk/femail/article…
“However the strained look on his face on Thursday night was worth a thousand words, suggesting that the shock news of his baby girl's arrival and his subsequent split from Grimes may have caused the billionaire a fair amount of stress.“
Did he even know about having a 2nd baby with Grimes?
Or is Grimes starting a 2nd simulation?
Or is Grimes starting a 2nd simulation?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1317197407868903425?s=20&t=6wSDi1FmIv5DzSpa-N9fQw
Stage 3: Pressure: Create a narrative and become a ‘reliable’ source
Grimes worked hard to convince everybody that she is the gf of Elon Musk.
Trying to get with him on several occasions, while it isn't visible that they are in a love relationship.
Grimes worked hard to convince everybody that she is the gf of Elon Musk.
Trying to get with him on several occasions, while it isn't visible that they are in a love relationship.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1443286354595614724?s=20&t=nUyiNvZjiWtw7fl3HSA-Cg
It looked more that Elon Musk tried to avoid her as much as possible, while she tried to stay connected with Elon Musk through one-sided stories and controversial moves.
In the VF interview it's mentioned ‘she liked being Musk’s girlfriend’, writing the word ‘liked’ different.
Most commonly, italics are used for emphasis or contrast — that is, to draw attention to some particular part of a text.
Why would the writer want to do this?
Most commonly, italics are used for emphasis or contrast — that is, to draw attention to some particular part of a text.
Why would the writer want to do this?
Turning the narrative upside down:
"But in a new Vanity Fair profile, the pop star turned the narrative upside down with some bombshell news."
The new narrative the media is pushing with Grimes doesn't fit the other narrative the media is pushing regarding the 'new girlfriend'.
"But in a new Vanity Fair profile, the pop star turned the narrative upside down with some bombshell news."
The new narrative the media is pushing with Grimes doesn't fit the other narrative the media is pushing regarding the 'new girlfriend'.
At least the media has a hard time correcting these mistakes in the storylines.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1503114575092273157?s=20&t=PcIddGVvqPN2M2UStgBWEQ
And with this ‘baby Y’ narrative, other people use it for clickbait/attention anything related to Grimes.
Interesting is Grimes saying “And so I feel like people are getting caught on a narrative that isn’t actually reflective of what’s going on.”
atmos.earth/beyond-grimes-…
Interesting is Grimes saying “And so I feel like people are getting caught on a narrative that isn’t actually reflective of what’s going on.”
atmos.earth/beyond-grimes-…
On having a baby, it isn’t clear either if it's baby X or baby Y story regarding 'having a baby recently'.
Story X ‘she was barely alive’ and had surgery, story Y ‘born via surrogate’.
Via surrogate 'traumatic' and 'savage experience'?
Or did she get the 2 storylines mixed up?
Story X ‘she was barely alive’ and had surgery, story Y ‘born via surrogate’.
Via surrogate 'traumatic' and 'savage experience'?
Or did she get the 2 storylines mixed up?
Stage 4: Threat: Manipulation by pushing the narrative as ‘truth’
Was the interview and reveal of ‘Y’ in VF the last attempt of Grimes to make headlines again, stay connected to Elon Musk?
Was the interview and reveal of ‘Y’ in VF the last attempt of Grimes to make headlines again, stay connected to Elon Musk?
The VF article came out on the same day as the hearing of the famous ‘420 tweet’.
Is it a coincidence?
teslarati.com/tesla-elon-mus…
Is it a coincidence?
teslarati.com/tesla-elon-mus…
Grimes and Banks played a important role in the ‘420 tweet’ lawsuit since August 2018 as a ‘witness’ according to the ‘investors’.
They were both going to be subpoenaed and had to save all their communications as evidence.
businessinsider.nl/court-grants-m…
They were both going to be subpoenaed and had to save all their communications as evidence.
businessinsider.nl/court-grants-m…
In December 2020 Banks already stated ‘it was not her issue’, but they should look into Grimes.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1402737588457312262?s=20&t=A4rzGj1KJGs0mYbltzYs9w
In March 2022 the investors only wanted to focus on Musk’s tweets and no longer on Banks or Grimes.
Why couldn’t they use it anymore?
Did they find out it was bs?
With Grimes no longer playing a major role in the trial, is she losing her way of control or the narrative?
Why couldn’t they use it anymore?
Did they find out it was bs?
With Grimes no longer playing a major role in the trial, is she losing her way of control or the narrative?
In a recent Lex Fridman podcast, Grimes bringing up baby X and baby Y regularly, what would be expected from a mother.
The way she speak about them, reminds me more about having ‘things’ instead of ‘living beings’ (the baby, youngest baby, little baby).
The way she speak about them, reminds me more about having ‘things’ instead of ‘living beings’ (the baby, youngest baby, little baby).
While Grimes talked about her babies, Lex Fridman referred to them as baby computers.
Talking about the Baby X Simulation Project?
Talking about the Baby X Simulation Project?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1476272855419703297?s=20&t=CglInMRHvL-YYK-IaTlinA
In tweets Grimes mentioned to keep her ‘daughter’ private, but in interviews she is bringing it in the conversations.
Why isn’t she keeping it private?
Talking about her baby ‘Y’ regarding her name, it sounds like it’s a joke to Grimes.
Is it a joke?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxzvV5S…
Why isn’t she keeping it private?
Talking about her baby ‘Y’ regarding her name, it sounds like it’s a joke to Grimes.
Is it a joke?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxzvV5S…
"Wait, it’s all cake?
Always has been.."
(Aka 'Deceive the eye')
Always has been.."
(Aka 'Deceive the eye')
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1364598161105387520?s=20&t=CglInMRHvL-YYK-IaTlinA
Stage 5: Compliance: Give up, give in
Elon isn’t giving in on ‘baby Y’ narrative, like he did with the ‘baby X’ narrative.
In May 2020, did he thought it was funny to make a fool out of the narrative?
Did he thought or hoped people would know it was a joke, a simulation?
Elon isn’t giving in on ‘baby Y’ narrative, like he did with the ‘baby X’ narrative.
In May 2020, did he thought it was funny to make a fool out of the narrative?
Did he thought or hoped people would know it was a joke, a simulation?
The weird name, making fun of the name in public ‘sounds like a password’ and ‘cat running over the keyboard’.
The narratives regarding getting ‘pregnant’, revealing the gender, pronouncing the name, hiding the face on social media doesn’t fit together either.
The narratives regarding getting ‘pregnant’, revealing the gender, pronouncing the name, hiding the face on social media doesn’t fit together either.
TED Interview - 06 April 2022:
Chris saying that Elon is ‘father now of 7 surviving kids’.
Is Elon’s reaction and body language telling a different story?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxOj483…
Chris saying that Elon is ‘father now of 7 surviving kids’.
Is Elon’s reaction and body language telling a different story?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxOj483…
Elon never said anything about a daughter and is still not confirming it.
Is it because it’s a fake narrative? Is it a part of the Simulation of Grimes?
Is it because it’s a fake narrative? Is it a part of the Simulation of Grimes?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1317197407868903425?s=20&t=0Dt_pqMCvjb-82GoAY_s1w
TED talk - 14 April 2022:
Making jokes about X as being a ventriloquist dummy and making a remark ‘how do you know that’s real’. Was it just an innocent joke?
Elon needed to think about answering how X will grow up in what kind of world and gave a general safe answer.
Making jokes about X as being a ventriloquist dummy and making a remark ‘how do you know that’s real’. Was it just an innocent joke?
Elon needed to think about answering how X will grow up in what kind of world and gave a general safe answer.
In the previous interview Chris mentioned Elon being a father of 7 surviving kids. They could have talked about his ‘7’ kids.
But in this interview not a single comment about a alleged daughter.
A 2nd Simulation of Grimes?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxmPHIW…
But in this interview not a single comment about a alleged daughter.
A 2nd Simulation of Grimes?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxmPHIW…
Die Welt Interview - 15 April 2022
Talking about birthrates, but not talking about a new baby. Why not mentioning the new baby?
Elon is saying that he is medium happy, happy at work but not happy in love.
Not happy with a new baby and a new girlfriend?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxS2kQA…
Talking about birthrates, but not talking about a new baby. Why not mentioning the new baby?
Elon is saying that he is medium happy, happy at work but not happy in love.
Not happy with a new baby and a new girlfriend?
youtube.com/clip/UgkxS2kQA…
FT Live Interview - 10 May 2022
Note: there is a delay on the livestream.
The host asked Elon a personal question about his kids. In the same sentence the host mentioned the new baby.
Elon first reaction looked nervous. After that he was more confident.
youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-FHfe…
Note: there is a delay on the livestream.
The host asked Elon a personal question about his kids. In the same sentence the host mentioned the new baby.
Elon first reaction looked nervous. After that he was more confident.
youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-FHfe…
When talking about his 5 sons, he was very confident.
When talking about X he looked first up, looked other ways and was nervous.
Also in his storytelling he laughed his words away and corrected himself.
Why was Elon nervous? Was he lying?
youtube.com/clip/Ugkx2o9GQ…
When talking about X he looked first up, looked other ways and was nervous.
Also in his storytelling he laughed his words away and corrected himself.
Why was Elon nervous? Was he lying?
youtube.com/clip/Ugkx2o9GQ…
“The eyes: Someone who is lying might stare or look away at a crucial moment, says Glass — a possible sign they’re moving their eyes around as they try to think about what to say next.”
time.com/5443204/signs-…
time.com/5443204/signs-…
Recently Grimes admitted she has blackmailed and hacked people before in 2012.
Grimes is not averse to blackmailing and hacking people?
musictech.com/news/music/gri…
Grimes is not averse to blackmailing and hacking people?
musictech.com/news/music/gri…
Blackmail is a crime.
It involves threats used to coerce someone to give up money, services, or personal property against their will.
Give in to the blackmail is an option, but not a good option.
For a blackmailer it is often a (chess) game.
It involves threats used to coerce someone to give up money, services, or personal property against their will.
Give in to the blackmail is an option, but not a good option.
For a blackmailer it is often a (chess) game.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1474142316168421383?s=20&t=DRPkulKKvXL9JzyXeVQ41A
The Truth will set You Free!
May 17th a new interview was released with Elon Musk and Jason from All-In Podcast.
Jason asked: 'What's new in your world?', Elon answered 'debating the number of bots on Twitter'.
Not mentioning a new gf or a new baby.
Why not?
Jason asked: 'What's new in your world?', Elon answered 'debating the number of bots on Twitter'.
Not mentioning a new gf or a new baby.
Why not?
Elon Musk wasn't talking about a new girlfriend or a new baby at all.
Not even when they were discussing the human population and babies.
Is Elon finally not playing the game anymore?
Not even when they were discussing the human population and babies.
Is Elon finally not playing the game anymore?
Stage 6: Repetition The pattern is set
Google search interest over time shows that not many people search for Grimes, expect when there is ‘big’ news connected to Elon Musk.
-Sept 2021 (Break up announcement)
-March 2022 (Baby Y announcement)
Google search interest over time shows that not many people search for Grimes, expect when there is ‘big’ news connected to Elon Musk.
-Sept 2021 (Break up announcement)
-March 2022 (Baby Y announcement)
In 2018 – 2020 it was the same trend.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1382427147764178945?s=20&t=-_Z9iX6QNaHsZc6Tuyy-Og
Through the baby Y story, Grimes has put herself back in the spotlight. Media and people are talking about her again.
“But it was when she revealed the baby's name that the global headlines – and internet memes – exploded into life.”
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
“But it was when she revealed the baby's name that the global headlines – and internet memes – exploded into life.”
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
Baby Y supposed to be born in December 2021,the surrogate had to pregnant from March 2021.
In May 2021,there was no romantic connection between Grimes and Elon Musk at the afterparty of SNL.
Grimes walked behind Elon,passed him and walked in front of him, jumped into the car.
In May 2021,there was no romantic connection between Grimes and Elon Musk at the afterparty of SNL.
Grimes walked behind Elon,passed him and walked in front of him, jumped into the car.
Elon wasn’t amused (shakes no when she passed him) and talked to his body guard.
The body guard talked heavily with Grimes in the car.
Why would this situation occur, while she supposed to be his gf and becoming a mother of their second child?
The body guard talked heavily with Grimes in the car.
Why would this situation occur, while she supposed to be his gf and becoming a mother of their second child?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1392248322338037760?s=20&t=WX-eau6iN8mp7D5kvWzbtg
“Grimes shares why she used a surrogate for her and Elon Musk's second child”
“Musical artist Grimes, who recently welcomed her second child - a baby girl named Exa Dark Sideræl Musk - into the world with Elon Musk, has spoken about how the pair used a surrogate.”
“Musical artist Grimes, who recently welcomed her second child - a baby girl named Exa Dark Sideræl Musk - into the world with Elon Musk, has spoken about how the pair used a surrogate.”
“Sadly during her pregnancy with 'X', Grimes said at some points she was unable to walk,”
"He was pressing on my nerves, so I kept collapsing. I took a few steps and collapsed. It was kind of scary,...
cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/health…
"He was pressing on my nerves, so I kept collapsing. I took a few steps and collapsed. It was kind of scary,...
cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/health…
...because you don’t want to fall a lot when you’re eight months pregnant.
So I would just crawl to the bathroom and crawl back or whatever."
Really?
So I would just crawl to the bathroom and crawl back or whatever."
Really?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1374277754481483782?s=20&t=WX-eau6iN8mp7D5kvWzbtg
In May 2020 Grimes did a DJ Set 3 days before delivery and a Vogue cover while supposedly being ‘9 months pregnant’.
Apparently she wasn’t having those problems then.
Also why was the pregnant bump in January 2020 bigger than for Vogue in May 2020?
Apparently she wasn’t having those problems then.
Also why was the pregnant bump in January 2020 bigger than for Vogue in May 2020?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1317197456296333312?s=20&t=WX-eau6iN8mp7D5kvWzbtg
Grimes said the same thing in an interview when supposedly being ‘6 months pregnant’.
“Starting to get really tired” in an interview (Feb 2020), but still performing a DJ set at in Feb 2020.
The pregnant bump was not visible in the live performance.
“Starting to get really tired” in an interview (Feb 2020), but still performing a DJ set at in Feb 2020.
The pregnant bump was not visible in the live performance.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1374382527251501058?s=20&t=baFCmlEL1OY6UhLdkOr43w
When Grimes needs a new career boost, can we expect baby number 3, 4?
At least media are trying to keep this option open.
“Despite their split, Grimes insists she and Musk will expand their family, saying: 'We've always wanted at least three or four.'”
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
At least media are trying to keep this option open.
“Despite their split, Grimes insists she and Musk will expand their family, saying: 'We've always wanted at least three or four.'”
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
Fake or real?
Did Grimes created these scenes to keep the Simulation going?
To make her fans believe that they are a 'love couple', or did she knew how to use the media to get attention for promoting her career?
Did Grimes created these scenes to keep the Simulation going?
To make her fans believe that they are a 'love couple', or did she knew how to use the media to get attention for promoting her career?
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1372698495472304133?s=20&t=WX-eau6iN8mp7D5kvWzbtg
From 2018 until now, no love connection was spotted between Elon Musk and Grimes.
A thread about their 'moments'.
A thread about their 'moments'.
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1443286359058305028?s=20&t=WX-eau6iN8mp7D5kvWzbtg
“Why people believe liars”
"...psychologist Maria Konnikova describes the tactics successful con artists use to get people to fall for their schemes. ... explains how even the most skeptical people can easily be persuaded into believing outlandish lies."
inc.com/maria-konnikov…
"...psychologist Maria Konnikova describes the tactics successful con artists use to get people to fall for their schemes. ... explains how even the most skeptical people can easily be persuaded into believing outlandish lies."
inc.com/maria-konnikov…
#Simulation
https://twitter.com/Mariska27131324/status/1364598161105387520?s=20&t=6hcGMUmrVL1xPePk4-MrtA
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