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May 5 16 tweets 5 min read
This video from @RALee85 of a Russian Army Grad & 152mm battery firing on Mariupol is a wonderful opportunity for a comparative logistics 🧵thread on rocket artillery ammunition.

Pay attention to the video.

There is a lot to unpack here, literally👇
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Setup:

Communication Theory 101

o The message you think you send, isn't
o The message you actually send, isn't
o The message your audience actually hears/sees/understands.

Such is the case with that video on several levels.

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Let's start with this still. You see a couple of "Z", a flag and a big tarp.

That's is a distraction from what it really is.

This is a stack of 122mm rocket boxes containing rockets without fuzes with seven visible boxes & the rest covered.

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I did a history thread on US Army TOW anti-tank missile boxes to demonstrate there is a lot of intelligence value to be had from looking at boxes.

The same applies with these 122mm rocket boxes and how they are used in this video.
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Lower left, this still is another view of that tarped "Z" box stack.

What is missing from this still?

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This is another still from the same video. Look at the now uncovered box stack bottom center.

There are others higher left, but that stack is the important one. The tarp is gone with some of the rockets removed from their boxes.

Again, what is missing across the field?
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This is the bed of one of those trucks at the beginning of the video. It has two rockets without fuzes and one that is being installed on the right by a technician.

Ask yourself what's wrong with what you are seeing here, in addition to the question of what is missing?

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These stills are your answers.

Everything is done by manual labor. There is no material handling equipment to be seen.

The impact fuzes and the launcher electricals are all installed by hand. Nothing is logistical mechanized or automated.

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Lets compare this to the US Army's MLRS system from one of my earlier threads.

Material handling equipment is right there, built into the launcher.

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The automation is right there, built into the launcher and factory sealed rocket pod.

There is no back breaking manual or futzing with individual rocket fuzes & igniters in heat, cold, rain, or snow.

It's safer & more reliable.

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Now back to "Communication Theory 101" -

The message Russia thought it was sending was one about strength.

The message it actually sent was one about Russian backwardness & weakness.

So what about that 3rd message?
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The one the audience of this thread actually hears/sees/understands?

Because after looking through that video & the stills from them, the 3rd message isn't about Russian power or weakness at all.

The 3rd message received can best be summed up as "What the H--l?"

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What the h--l was Western Intelligence doing for 80 years not to notice this?

Western intelligence hear the message Russia sent exactly as Russia wanted it heard.

This is utterly unacceptable given that the MLRS was a late 1970's early 1980's weapon system built...

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...exactly 1/2 way between 1945 and 2022 to mechanize and automate all those 122mm Grad rocket steps the stills in this thread demonstrated.

MLRS was one of the "Big Five" in the 1980's US Army procurement strategy.

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army.mil/article/249247…
It's specifications were available for apples to apples comparisons with Soviet & later Russian Army kit for 45 years...

...and nobody noticed the logistical differences between them & US Army artillery logistics?

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If "Amateurs study tactics & professionals study logistics"...

...what does that make Western Intelligence?

And how does it regain the credibility it just lost?

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1. The complete lack of mechanized logistics in the Russian Army
2. The horrible vulnerability of Russian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles compared to equivalent Western vehicles
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Multiple units are being transferred. I cannot disclose where I was running.

I'm posting at a later time, so it's NOT real time.
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Additional observation:

The truck you are seeing is a late model US Army FMTV 5-ton truck with LTAS add-on cab armor kit installed.

It will save the cab crew from an anti-tank mine blast, 7.62mm rifle fire and -- if memory serves -- 155mm shell fragments at ~30 meters.

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See the link:
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When you get down to brass tacks.

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If the SCOTUS is political.
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@MarcVitale4 It is easy for Boris Johnson's government to look like strategic giants when they are dealing with pygmies.

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@MarcVitale4 ...Sec State Kerry.

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There are implications in this.

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The NSN would cut Russian sea lines of communication into Sevastopol

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...when launched from the Ukrainian Black Sea coast.

RUSI mentioned this article in the its post.

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And the shipment work is never done until the paperwork is filled out.😊

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Acronym Decodes:

IATA - International Air Traffic Association
DoT - Dept of Transportation
DoD - Dept of Defense

Air cargo is a complicated business because of overlapping jurisdictions and international regulations via the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) &

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...the Chicago Convention, the international treaty that still governs the conduct of international air transport.

The link provides a nice overview.
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