This new JAMA study is worth discussing. It found that, this winter, vax effectiveness in 12-15 yos dropped to 0% after 3-5 months & vaccinated were MORE likely to test+ at month 7. May be confounded (see🧵)
But I don't see this as good reason for boosters jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…
I think the most likely confounder here which could lead to the calculated negative effectiveness is higher amount of immunity from prior infection in the unvaccinated group. It could also be related to different behaviors in the two groups. Need randomization to sort this out
Remember, we have seen the same pattern of negative effectiveness in 5-11 year olds in NY so I don't think what we are seeing in the JAMA study is limited to 12-17 year olds
Also, remember, this is only looking at infection rate and not severe disease rate
Some have suggested negative effectiveness may be due to imprinting leading to an increased risk of infection among vaccinated over time, but until randomized data or other more convincing data are available I'm not ready to latch onto that theory, though it's hard to rule out
Almost all kids are very low risk from this disease & especially since protection against infection wanes quickly, we need risk benefit analyses of protection against severe disease vs vaccine adverse events for each dose, esp since >3/4 of kids have immunity from prior infection
Re imprinting: some data we have so far to support this are randomized moderna data showing vaccinated less likely than unvax to develop anti-nucleocapsid antibodies after infection (40-50 vs >90%) but I don't think we know what this means clinically yet medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
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I think it's wise to ask why this difference exists and it also shows there is equipoise about these 7 immunizations & Denmark clearly feels the data are unconvincing.
Please correct dose # s if wrong. Yearly covid + influenza increase the # in the US substantially.
A little-known fact is this year Denmark removed their recent 2021 recommendation to vaccinate 2-6 year old children for influenza, citing low uptake.
A good accompaniment to this paper is our previous systematic review documenting the lack of high quality evidence of benefit of masking children for COVID-19 adc.bmj.com/content/109/3/…
How effective was the 2023-24 mRNA covid vax vs Covid infection?
Below are data from Cleveland Clinic showing the unadjusted cumulative Covid incidence by vax status👇
Day 0=12/31/2023
🔵Vaccinated
🔴Unvaccinated
Does this appear like an effective vax vs infection to you?
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Some will mention that the adjusted estimated vax effectiveness was reported as 23%, but this disappears if you do not adjust for prior number of covid vax doses
This group found the more prior vax doses you have had, the higher your risk of covid infection during the study.
In other words:
If this apparent increasing risk of infection w/more prior doses (which may be due to confounding) isn't adjusted for, the calculated effectiveness of the 2023-2024 vaccine disappears & the vaccine appears ineffective vs infection
Something I haven't seen mentioned re the loss of trust in physicians study👇 is the irony that the paper itself could worsen the problem w/its lack of introspection, failing to cite any examples of things US "experts" got wrong & yet forced on the public during covid!
List in🧵
First, this is the authors' own #11 citation from above. Of course people should have been skeptical about "shelter in place". We still don't have evidence it improved health, yet the authors suggest the skepticism is part of the problem
Remember, the scientific process requires skepticism. So how is "science skepticism" not just part of science itself?🤔 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34646034/
Lockdowns/closures: Here was a nice paper by Eran Bendavid and @chiragjp which failed to find any consistent evidence the stringency of a government's pandemic response was associated with better outcomes.
There was 1 point in my conversation w/@ashishkjha on @OnPointRadio that I wanted to discuss:
It's not true that the Feb 2021 @CDCgov reopening guidelines under the Biden admin facilitated school reopening. 90% of the country was in "red" and, per CDC, shouldn't open full time🧵
For districts that implemented testing, middle & high schools didn't all have to be totally remote and could go back in hybrid mode in high community transmission
But only if they were 6 feet apart
& sports would still all be virtual 😬🤦♀️
(we were one year in at this point!)
This article by @vkoganpolisci & @VPrasadMDMPH described the situation well.
Why was @CDCgov requiring 6ft of distance & basing guidelines on community transmission after our Wood County, WI study published in CDC's journal indicated it wasn't necessary? statnews.com/2021/02/20/new…