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May 16, 2022 9 tweets 3 min read Read on X
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The lethal effects of artillery were not put on a really scientific basis until WW2.

There were lots of reasons for this involving money & politics I won't go into.

When the operational analysts to their first bite. They made charts like this mapping fragment impacts.
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The previous chart wasn't accurate because because it mapped a static detonation.

Analysts knew these maps were wrong because of damage inflicted in WW2.

It took early vacuum tube digital computers in the 1950's to accurately model how velocity altered that frag-pattern.
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What analysts were trying to achieve was a consistent modeling of airburst frag-patterns to kill infantry in trenches.

Then this information was fed into engineering shell designs to get the metallurgy & design of shells
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...such that they consistently made fragments of the right size/velocity to kill infantry over larger areas.

Starting in the 1970's through early 2000's this technological avenue was abandoned for the deployment of cluster munitions.
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The movement to ban cluster weapons lead to a push to replace lots of little bombs with more efficient fragmentation with 40 years better computer technology, explosives & metallurgy.

This Rheinmetall infographic shows what that means in terms of shell lethality.
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PBX4 IM is a insensitive plastic explosive that fragments steel more efficiently than TNT.

# Pre-Frag means the number of engineered fragments the shell produces. Now read the infographic bottom line from left to right.
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Russian 152mm shells have not ridden the increased lethality technological development train because Russia kept artillery cluster munitions.

The M795 155mm shell has. And it much more lethal on a shell for shell basis than a Russian 152mm shell because it did.

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There is a price to be paid for US M795 shell being both more lethal in its fragmentation and safer to use because of the explosives.

It costs more than a Russian 152mm shell.

There are reasons why the defense budget costs more for fewer weapons.

This is one of them.
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Jan 6
The thing about being a retired DoD Quality Staffer is I'm not afraid of asking 3rd parties, or AI's like Grok, about my work product.

I've done several threads that are reflected in Grok's impressions of my Xeets on military boat-drones.

Boat-Drones in Naval Warfare🧵
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This is what I said almost a year ago, back in February 2024, about how the ship name "Ivanovets" will join "Prince of Wales" and "Repulse" marking the day the world changed for Naval power.

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I made the specific point then that Iran was already deploying drone loitering munitions on its uncrewed boat-drones.

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Jan 2
This is an interesting, and double false, claim by the Russian Fighter bomber channel about boat-drones:

"Due to its speed and maneuverability, it is almost impossible to hit a BEK with a drone, as well as with emergency drops."

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@sambendett has posted videos about the Russians successfully destroying Ukrainian boat-drones with FPV drones back in May 2024.

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Back in July 2024 the Russians had 250 km/h drones bodies for FPV work which has the power to weight performance to blast through a helicopter downwash.

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Jan 2
This is another useful translation thread by @sambendett dealing with the Russian reaction to the downing of two Russian helicopters by boat-drone launched R-73 (NATO reporting name AA-11 Archer) missiles.

Boat-drones vs helicopters🧵
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I've tried with an earlier thread to give this engagement both historical context and possible implications for Western naval helicopter operations in littoral waters going forward

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What is more interesting about this Russian translation thread is Russian helicopters have deployed FPV's for boat-drone hunting in September 2024.

Apparently, these Russian helicopter FPV's were either daylight only or unavailable for that engagement.
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Jan 2
I've gotten some interesting claims of "Cope" from the pro-russian troll accounts on X.

Oh no, Russian VKS backwardness neither begins no ends with a lack of pallets.

Let's talk about the manually hand pumped VKS bomb lifts like the one this Mobik is using⬇️

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A long line of VKS bombs are shown here from the same TV clip with orange and green painted, hand pumped, lift trailers.

The big handles on each are how you lift and lower the bombs.

Can you imagine how many handle strokes it required to raise a 500 kg or 1,000kg bomb?

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When I was test track driving a FMTV truck. It took between 120 and 150 hand strokes to pop over an unarmored cab.

The later heavier armored cabs took about another 50 more.

Testing the manual hand pump was in the test procedure.🤷‍♂️

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Dec 31, 2024
Ukraine's use of boat-drones to shoot down a Russian crewed helicopter with a R-73 missile is as historically significant as Israeli destroyer Eilat (ex HMS Zealous) with a Styx missile by Egypt. Image
The era of the armed naval helicopter hunting submarines, small boats and spotting/screening for naval surface warships may be coming to a close.

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Small boat-drones as platforms for 20 km(+) range fiber optic guided FPV drones will become huge threat to merchant traffic in the littorals and will bedevil escorting warships denied low altitude helicopter cover.

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Dec 31, 2024
Gosh,

This is such a logistical admission against interest by the Russian VKS I don't know where to begin.

We see here a single Russian forklift operator moving a FAB-500 bomb with _chains_ wrapped around forklift tines at the 12-16 sec mark

A USAF safety NCO's head

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...would explode seeing the procedure used.

Four men build the UMPK kit on the loaded bomb.

The packaging for the FAB-500 is obviously made to be _rolled_on_the_ground_ by a mobik work gang or stacked in a gondola car of a Russian train by a crane.

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The Russians can and do use tactical truck drawn trailers to move FAB-500 bombs, but didn't in the previous video's case.

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