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Jun 3 19 tweets 5 min read
I missed this yesterday regards Ukraine's sustained casualty loss rates. 👇

This will be a historical casualty loss rate versus current Ukrainian mobilization thread🧵

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Ukraine has taken between 4,300 & 6,000 KIA & ~25,000 WIA based on the retweeted @RALee85 thread.

In 20th century mechanized warfare, historically, you see one dead out of five casualties.

Of the wounded, 50% are lost for the war as combatants. Some will be available

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...for light clerical/logistical work that always sucks away manpower from the front. That is 12,500 Ukrainian soldiers.

Of the other 12,500 wounded, those who are 'lightly wounded' and can still fight do so until blood loss or infection make them "I can no longer fight
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... wounded."

That is, "lightly wounded" generally is _NOT_ a flesh wound.

It is debilitating can't fight anymore wounded, because battle buddies. It's the way soldiers in combat roll.

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The worst of the 'wounded & return to duty' take six months to get back to combat.

The rest are a spectrum of a few days, to weeks, to several months.

Additionally, most of what WW2 referred to as "neuropsychiatric casualties" were anything but.

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Much of what was called "shell shock" in WW1 and PTSD today has been identified by magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) since the 2005-2007 Iraqi IED campaign as organic brain dysfunction via closed head traumatic brain injury.

Impact & explosive concussion damages the jellyware.
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It is not clear how Ukraine & Russia are counting or treating TBI wounded soldiers.

During 1945 artillery heavy combat at Okinawa saw 9/10 neuropsychiatric casualties returned to combat after 24 hours.

A further 1/10 returned to combat after 10 days.

The remaining

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...tenth was split between between non-combat duties on Okinawa and evacuation for long term hospitalization.

No information has been released by either Ukraine or Russia on it's PTSD/TBI war wounded.
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There is much less available information Russian casualties. Equipment wise they have been losing 2/3 of a battalion tactical group (BTG) worth of vehicles a day on average.

The Russian ratio of KIA to WIA was 1 to 1.6 per Belarus civilian medical data in Feb-March 2022.
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If you take the 31 May 2022 Ukrainian KIA claim for Russian troops of 30,500 and multiply by 1.6 the Belarus ratio you get 48,800 wounded for a total of 79,300 Russian battle casualties as of that date.

Russian PTSD/TBI wounded are some number on top of 79,300.

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Please carefully note that Ukraine treats Russian Army, LNR, DNR, Russian National Guard, FSB, Wagner Group & foreign mercs all as "Russian."

Ukraine is maintaining a 5 to 1 kill ratio in terms of battle deaths & a 2 to 1 ratio advantage in terms of battle wounds inflicted.

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Those realities are why the LNR & DNR have been forcibly conscripting 40-50 year old men in occupied Luhansk & Donetsk and anyone they can impress in places like Mariupol.

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Right now the Ukrainian loss rate is lower than its rate of mobilization. The Ukrainians are on track to a million people under arms by no later than the end of July with many/most of them returning combat veterans of six conscript classes in the previous 8-years of fighting.
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This means Ukraine can turn donated/captured ex-Soviet equipment into new combat units immediately via using existing units as cadre with returning veterans as fillers to generate new formations.

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The issue for Ukraine is getting enough heavy equipment, artillery and fighting vehicles to arm the newly mobilized manpower. The hand me down ex-Soviet war material from East European NATO nations are less than Ukraine has lost.

This is balanced by captured

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...Russian AFV's, of which Ukraine has captured more tanks than it has lost. (See @oryxspioenkop posts)

Some of the captured Russian tanks/BMP/BTR are immediately usable, but most will need some amount of refit. Ukraine's Kharkiv, Kyiv, and other AFV rebuild depots have

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...been heavily attacked by Russian artillery & airpower.

NATO East European AFV rebuild depots have stepped in to fill the vacuum and are doing the work with EU funds.

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Reports on Twitter strongly point to Ukraine being able to turn new NATO kit into combat power very quickly.

Ukraine is in a much better position to sustain a multi-year war than Russia. It has an unlimited line of credit with the West for arms and an utterly

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...committed population.

Russia has neither.

And the Ukraine General Staff announced a goal of 1.5 million armed Ukrainian by early 2023.

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Jun 5
I've gotten some push back on my last two casualties in the Russo-Ukrainian War threads.

So, I'm going to drop some photo clips in this 🧵from on-line WW2 casualty documents that were background to the previous casualty posts.

They will illuminate who is dying in this war.
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When I referenced Trevor Dupuy in the previous tweets. It was due to the fact I backtracked to WW2 casualty reports to validate Dupuy's source data so I could trust it.

There were a lot of casualty reports in WW2, but they had the same general pattern for battle casualties.

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When it comes to non-battle casualties, the WW2 reports get a lot flakier.

Let's start with the 1945 Okinawa Campaign and specifically with issues of neuropsychiatric casualties

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Jun 4
There is a lot to unpack from this video & for the purposes of this thread. 🧵 The assumption is we are looking at a timely #Severodonetsk counterattack video.

Short form:
The Russian Army has run out of trained infantry, which is what "Culminating Point" means.
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Ukraine has inflicted on the order of 79,000 Russian KIA & WIA to date.

Of the 190,000 Russian troops that invaded only between 10% & 20% are dismounted infantry, most likely on the lower end due to Russian "Ghost Troops" corruption.

What is 10% of 190,000?

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It's 19,000, and 20% is 38,000.

Russia has not only burned through all its infantry. It has burned through all the LNR infantry as well.

Which is why bolt-action rifle armed DNR troops were sent to both Mariupol and now Severodonetsk in Luhansk. They & the Chechen

3/
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Jun 3
Russian Army culminating point reached?👇

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And Putin's military commander in chief in Ukraine just got canned?👇

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Jun 3
@NekhayShchastyt The speed with which a modern railway bridge can be repaid is much faster than WW2 or Korea due to the existence of major prefabricated concrete structures.

See my thread here:

@NekhayShchastyt Russia's anti-railway campaign is failing in large part because Ukraine has large concrete structure vendors because it isn't a kleptocracy like Russia.

So there are a lot of concrete structures available to patch bridges & other rail infrastructure which Russia lacks.
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Jun 2
@sw4811 >>Bellingcat said the Russian army was days from collapse... weeks ago.

Bellingcat was making a straight line projection at then current rates of loss.

Russia changes plans (image) to reduce them.

The rate of loss vs rate of replacement is the most important factor in a
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@sw4811 ...military collapse.

Russia still has enough reserve material & conscripts to fill out casualties in worn down BTG to make smaller limited offensives.

The thing the military pros on Twitter are talking about is the 'culminating point' when this is no longer the case.
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@sw4811 The Ukrainian General Staff keeps giving up ground in Donbas to maintain their forces while maxing out Russian losses.

Think of it as a Ukrainian 'shaping operation" to bring forward the Russian 'culminating point.'
3/
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Jun 2
Rail logistics thread 🧵

You cannot completely shut down rail traffic with stand-off missiles. The repairs are usually cheaper than the missiles used to make the rail cuts.👇

Russia's anti-rail campaign is strategically bizarre if we compare its dozens of strikes against
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...Operation Strangle in Korea where the sortie count reached 87,552 interdiction sorties and the CHICOMs were still able to move materiel.

It took 20K heavy bomber sorties, carpet bombing rail yards over 2 months in Winter/Spring 1945, to stop Nazi German rail traffic👇
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The USAAF participation in the 14-15 Feb 1945 firebombing of Dresden was a pair of those railway marshalling yard raids.

Today's USAF would be hard pressed to crash Ukraine's rail system with JDAMs like it did in WW2 w/the Nazi's.

Mechanized engineering has improved so much
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