Taurevanime Profile picture
Jun 19 17 tweets 7 min read
This is a really good piece and addresses an issue I have been banging on about for about a decade.

Namely that not only do we lack the stockpiles to fight a proper war. We lack the industry to sustain it.

I'll go over it in a thread as usual

rusi.org/explore-our-re…
This section's title is great and the question posed rather ominous.

His figures for fighting forces are a fair bit off but none of that matters.

Also gotta love the little mention of Ukraine's few attempted raids that accomplished no appreciable damage to the war effort.
I have long said that it is the pencil pushers & bean counters that have gutted & destroyed the West's military with promises of doing more with less.

The result is that the MIC shifted from large orders with small margins to big orders with big margins
This is an absolutely staggering number of fire missions as anyone who has served with artillery or knows people who have.

And this isn't even the Russian army at it's fully mobilized might either. I truly doubt they are breaking a sweat supplying this.
Very good on the other to think there would be wastage in rounds and includes it in his calculations. Because you always have waste in the field.

And yes that 7176 rounds per day is just for the Russians. The DPR and LPR go through a lot of them too. So the true number is higher
We got rid of our military factories in the West as a cost saving measure, and nations specializing in fields.

The Netherlands used to be able to make their own planes, AFVs, guns and ammunition, no more. But they make high end radars for example.
So after the stockpile is expanded you get another ten days or so of fighting left in you. That is not good.

Also his math is off on those Excalibur rounds. It's actually only 261 per year for the entire US army. That is absolutely inadequate for a proper war.
No emphasis needed for this one.

I keep saying. No peacetime model accurately predicts how much ammunition you need in wartime. The answer is always "More than we predicted."
At 500 a day that means eventually once fully ramped up Lockheed's production capacity only sustains four days of fighting.

Though I honestly think Ukraine's claims are off. Or they are wasting a lot of missiles. Because we aren't seeing the effects of it.
In four months of fighting Russia has fired off two to three times the yearly annual US production run of cruise missiles.

And while I think the expenditure rate is greater than what Russia anticipated (what did I say about prediction models), it didn't faze them too much.
The 500 additional jobs tells me that expenditure rate was greater than production rate, but it could easily be adjusted.

Also finally getting some honesty that yes, the West is equal at best. And more than likely inferior in cruise missile production capability.
Again great title for this section.

Finally a breakdown that unless you can build precision weapons in a needed quantity, you cannot sustain a war on them.

Precision weapons also require good intelligence to properly use. Something you can never rely on in an intense conflict.
What a beautiful paragraph. It just honestly tears the entire Western industrial outsourcing, just in time delivery, and other crap we did in the 90s apart.

We have the money to build an armament industry sure. But we lack the skilled labour to work it now.
Again outsourcing weakened us. And it will take generations to fix.
What did I tell you about ammo consumption prediction models?

Also note that the US gun culture saved the US army's bacon in Afghanistan.

This is why I think it is important to have a good militia culture in your country, they support your vital military industries in peacetime
And finally the conclusion.

Remember we made China the manufacturing capital through outsourcing. We weakened ourselves and created this huge threat to ourselves because we wanted T-shirts a little cheaper and thought China would transform into a democracy if it got wealthy.
I think you may enjoy this article and my breakdown @man_integrated
rusi.org/explore-our-re…

Alex Vershinin really did good here in explaining the problem and it's causes to an ignorant audience.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Taurevanime

Taurevanime Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @Taurevanime

Jun 15
Oh this is bound to be good!
I am amazed by the ability to call the loss of strategic city and yet again the encirclement of some 2500 Ukrainian soldiers and foreign volunteers a loss somehow. But let us see.
So far every Western augmentation has failed to change anything.

Javelin
NLAW
Switchblade
M777
M109
Caesar
200+ T-72s

None of these have changed the course of the war.

And there is no hint of Russia getting weaker at all.
Read 22 tweets
Jun 14
KNDS released brochure & render of their EMBT concept.

Notable things:

>4th crewmember now a systems operator. Specifically for drones and the RWS
>Commander sight now also a RWS
>120mm L/52 gun retained rather than anything new
>manned turret retained
>12/7mm coax a la French
Looking at the graphic they want a manned turret but have the crew down low astride the gun much like with the M60A2 Starship as a weight saving measure.

Unlike the Starship there is no commander sitting on top center. So situational awareness benefits are negligible
Also looks like the commanders RWS has been moved to the front since the system operator's RWS need to be taller to be able to elevate high enough to engage drones and would thus block the commander's view if the sight wasn't moved forward.
Read 6 tweets
Jun 13
AW forgets that brOSINT does not live in a world of facts. So it is not about what is happening on the ground today.

While they do use facts to garner a reputation of being factual, they will very quickly turn to outright lies as part of a propaganda war.
Remember the many Kherson counter offensives we had this war as a recent example of this type of behavior.

But that is not the worst these people can help assist with. Image
No for the worst of what brOSINT does you need not look further than the fat Goon Eliot 'Brown Moses' Higgins and Bellingcat.

Who for years gave "detailed analysis" about chemical weapon attacks by the SAA. Always claiming it was a nerve agent without having anyone on the ground ImageImage
Read 8 tweets
Jun 13
Interesting article.

As the article elucidates the Empire is not trying to impose it's worldview on all, but rather maintain order to allow property rights and contract law to remain in effect.

1/x
From the realist point of view I would argue that the failure of the Empire, was in not punishing or getting rid of Vader, who clearly broke the rules (summarily executing subordinates) and contracts (altering his deal with Lando) in the dogged pursuit of his mission

2/x
By not properly chastising and removing Vader from his position of authority, the Empire tacitly approved his actions. Which brought chaos to where once was order. And so appearing hypocritical in the eyes of the Empires' citizenry.

3/x
Read 5 tweets
May 27
I promised and here it is.

The .277 Fury

Not just a shitty round, but the life's work of some really strong advocates ruined.
Now to understand why it is bad we need some history, and as with anything modern it starts with WW2

The US excited the war with three bullets in service.
.30-06 used in rifles & machine guns
.30 carbine which was used in the M1 Carbine
.45 ACP used in pistols & sub machine guns
The problem was that the .30-06 was too powerful a round to fire in full auto effectively, and the .30 carbine and .45 ACP were too weak and poorly designed to be effective at long range.

So why not make a bullet that did both?
That would be the .280 British on the left.
Read 20 tweets
May 26
So @ArmchairW made an offhanded comment and I looked at it and this makes me really have to make a thread I promised to make sometime soon.

The XM5 rifle using new light materials is as heavy as a goddamn SVD and even heavier than the SVU!!!

This is fucking insane!
And let use take into account it's that fucking heavy.

WITH A SHORTER BARREL!

Seriously SiG what the fuck did you do?
All this for a bullet that provides the same power, but out of a shorter barrel.

You know what that means? More powder, and with it pressure. That's why the fucker is so heavy. It needs to contain a bigger explosion!
Read 4 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(