1/ THIRD LONG THREAD
#AGNIPATH #AGNIVEER
PART 3 : AGNIVEER : BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER

First two videos gave out the MACRO PICTURE in PART-1, THE SCHEME in PART-2

Here in Part 3 I will talk about that IMAGINARY MAN who is being painted as a SUPER MAN. The AGNIVEER.
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He is a youth on street with (probably) better education, higher IQ and better health.
BEFORE
Who is Agniveer?
A SEPAHI in Army(Called Sepahi in Infantry, Gunner in Artillery, Sapper in Engineers and Signalman in Signals) etc., an AIRCRAFTSMAN (AC).....
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... in Airforce and a SAILOR in Navy, the entry level rank stands abolished and will be called AGNIVEER in all the three services.
Will it make a difference?
-Same person, same job, same service and same trade.
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-Till he enters a training institution there is no difference.
-He is a volunteer

What is the difference between the currently recruited Soldier/Sailor and Airman and Agniveer?
-Army-Rural background, physical first, written later, each arm or service....
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has own standards set for recruits.
-Task based entry level tests.
-Agniveer- Opens recruitment to entire youth. Town/Cities based youth always failed in physical since the rural counterparts were stronger.
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-Nothing has been specified but there will be requirement to set a base line level minimum criteria for the ARMED FORCES and once cleared, each service will have to completely revise their criteria.

What jobs they will perform?
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A JOB is called TRADE in forces. Once allotted the trade does not change.
-Services have different work for different soldiers which is called TRADE. Gunner, Operator, Rifleman, Engineers, Technician and hundreds more, Barber, Tailor, Washerman,
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Safaiwala etc. also are trades. Army itself has more than 500 trades, Airforce and Navy around 100 trades each. These trades are grouped in different slabs for purposes on salary. Agniveer will be allotted a TRADE which he cannot refuse.
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He may fire a rifle, operate a radio, fire an artillery gun or become a barber, cook, safaiwala etc. He will perform task of trade. He remains in one salary bracket as per number of years of service.
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What is likely training to be imparted in six months?
Physical toughness, drill and firing are basic. Unlikely to be able to train in anything else except an introduction to his trade. Assuming that the uptake level of Agniveers is much higher than....
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...the present intake, more training can be imparted.

What is the major difference between the current regularly recruited soldiers/sailors and Airmen and Agniveer?
Have to wait for time

DURING
Understanding effect.
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-In 12-14 years over 90% Agniveers will replace current soldiers with 25% absorbed Agniveers rising up each year five years from now.
-The responsibility to maintain standards completely shifts up vertically.
-Officer Cadre can no longer relax.
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....They have to be better than men since in some time the Agniveers will be highly qualified
-The standards of Agniveers be raised and huge number of tasks need to be delegated.
-The first four years is a challenge, smoothens thereafter.
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AFTER
-Post release being made attractive
-75% being released must shift in central government jobs whether CAPFs or any department after clearing tests as required by that department.
-100% job guarantee for those who desire to continue in jobs.
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MY OBSERVATIONS
-With media full of interviews by ruling party politicians, joint live telecast by the senior officers of three services and DMA, putting everything together, I am convinced that there has been no work done on Agnipath,
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... simply because it has been given to them may be a month back. How do you explain the following announcements AFTER Raksha Mantri declares the scheme India?
•Next day upper age limit extended
•10% CAPF vacancies announced.
•Bank loan priority
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*UGC Skill Recognition declared
•Open schooling announcement
•10% MoD job vacancies

-These point to political decision given to Armed Forces as fait-accompli & the entire defence est is only expected to stand by government with whatever (ill) logic.
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-Why is there no mention of:
•Close down Directorate General of Resettlement in five years?
•Close down Kendriya Sainik Board?
•Revamp complete MoD, particularly Department of Ex Servicemen Welfare?
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•Handling retirement of regular soldiers that will take place up to 2036?
•Reducing Defence Pensions drawn by CIVILIANS?

It is a WIN WIN for Party & Agniveers definitely.
Armed Forces have been given AGNIVEERS, and as they say ‘DEAL WITH IT’.
LAST
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What is clear is that we have a CLUELESS nation with no knowledge of how Armed Forces work.

My concluding video will be released tomorrow.

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Jun 21
1/ This is interesting. #Agniveer A particular year we were close to war with Pakistan. My General Officer Commanding, who would frequently call me for operational discussions asked me if I could make all nine Infantry Battalion Mortars (81mm) Platoons fire together.
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3/ Say about 30-35 in total out of which at least 25-26 are jawans or Sipahis (whom Agniveers will replace). It takes 10-12 years of training to become detachment commander of one such mortar. There are 8 such mortars in each battalion. They require years of training together
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SECOND LONG THREAD ON #AGNIPATH and #AGNIVEER
1/
PART – 2 : AGNIPATH : THE SCHEME
Today I will focus only on Government documents available in public domain.
I will cover:
•The scheme
•Questions on the scheme
•The FAQs
•Brilliance in the scheme
•Holes in the scheme
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•Juvenile document I am talking about Version 1.0, Age increase from 21 to 23 became Version 1.1, CAPF induction became Version 1.2. How many more versions.
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•Language is not experienced military, it’s a give away
•My guess that veterans in ruling party were involved is doubtful too
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LONG THREAD
1.
#AGNIPATH #AGNIVEER
-Dont ask me if it is good or bad
-Dont ask me to give a pro-Army fight
-Dont ask me to support political class

I dont see Agniveer as something to be commented.

My thoughts are purely my own and I will cover
-Armed Forces and Agniveer
2. -Recruitment up to Mar 2020
-Recruitment and Discharge from Mar 2020 till almost recently
-Agniveer in 2022.

Armed Forces and Agniveer

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3. #AGNIPATH #AGNIVEER by Agnipath”. Havent you already done that internally? Did you tell India?

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