The energy shellacking continued today, but looking across the market, the action is actually fairly consistent (more in the thread below).As/when the industry puts up sustained cash flows, this selloff will look way overdone - but who knows if its over yet!?!? #EFT #OOTT
Market action says recession coming, interest rates won't go up as much as you think, inflation will moderate. Examples:
1) bonds up, yields down
2) commodities softening - not just oil - wheat, copper, etc (why? expectations of demand softening)
3) Nasdaq outperforming (lower rate expectations means higher NPVs)...$ARKK names the best example with many up double digits today
4) Consumer sensitive names getting smoked (airlines, hotels, retail, etc)
What's a little confusing is that if a recession is coming and rates are gonna be less than expected, why should any stocks be going up?....or maybe the S&P and QQQ strength today says they were oversold and the bottom is in. Above my pay grade.
Turning back to energy - my personal belief is that a slower economy is not going to be slow enough/bad enough to put a notable dent in energy demand. Yes, it will be softer on the margin (I've been harping about that for several months)..but not bad.
Then add the fact that Russia sanctions are going to start reducing supply (remember the Europe sanctions are scheduled for later this year so they can scramble for alternative supply). So some demand destruction is going to get offset by reduced global supply.
Organic oil/gas supply above current expectations is 12+ months away (probably longer)...unless Saudi or UAE are gonna unleash a lot more spare barrels - but why would they, they are in the driver's seat. So there is no supply addition story for a couple years.
So the market is painting a picture of "its going to be bad" for almost all asset classes...but the fundamental energy picture is really more "its going to be less good" - which the $70-$75 2025 backwardated forward curve had already told us vs. $110+ front month.
If oil and gas was a popular, established, entrenched-owner sector (like tech has been for years), then there would have been plenty of diamond handed owners that would shrug off the macro story and stick with the energy sector. Instead, recent owners/winners are bailing quickly.
What stops the bleeding? Always hard to tell when a "theme" has been fully discounted. Q3 earnings will show the sector's massive cash flow generation. Stock buybacks will show the sector's discipline. Stocks down more than the commodities, so cheap valuations getting cheaper.
In times like this (and there have been many over the past 25 years), you optimize your portfolio. Get bigger in your best ideas and shrink/sell the lower conviction ideas. Forget if you've made/lost money in a specific name. Add to the best risk/reward names you see today.
Where could the patient bull thesis be wrong?
* Meaningful economic crisis turfs demand (not just a slowdown).
* Saudi/UAE add 1mmbopd extra barrels.
* US shale players ramp growth remarkably (assassins will be dispatched by the buyside).
* Black swan decarb technology.
Summing it all up, in my opinion, the equity market is overstating the deterioration of future oil/gas supply/demand. Fighting the macro/machines is tough as we are witnessing with $XLE -19% this month (SPX -8%). There is no solace that XLE is still outperforming by 4700bps YTD
Hard to guess when the sellers will run out of ammo. Until they do, anybody long is gonna feel like a dumbass. When they do, anybody that didn't "buy the dip" is gonna feel like a dumbass. Feeling dumb no matter what - welcome to my world!
PS - Dear Lord, please give us a day where geopolitical action or energy stock action gives us nothing to do on Twitter but seek out funny memes and strategize our #FridayRollCall picture location.

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More from @pickeringenergy

Jun 22
Quick thread on White House address on gas tax holiday. Thanks for pulpit today @PowerLunch and Tyler Mathisen - so much more to say. Key point - "we're doing everything possible" is simply NOT the case. Much more is possible.

More below, #EFT #OOTT
Recap of Biden statements:
1) Proposing Fed gas tax holiday - 18-24c/gal, 2) request states also waive (20-30c/gal),
3) Refine more oil
4) US production will be a record next year
5) OPEC+ adding supply
6) Gas stations need to pass along lower prices
7) Putin's fault = +$2/gal
Jon Gollub CS - Unfortunately, many of these policy prescriptions lower near-term prices but leave longer run inflationary pressures in place.While politically expedient, these efforts encourage additional spending.They also undermine decision making by obfuscating price signals.
Read 16 tweets
Jun 17
A few thoughts #EFT #OOTT

Seems like old times...the bad old times. The yucky market finally caught up with oil and energy stocks. WTI went from "so good its almost bad" in the $120's to "still darn good but falling like a knife" in the $110's. XLE -20% since last Wednesday.
Let's not forget natty. The cool new kid at the party wound up puking in the bushes - dropping from $9.30's to $6.90's (-26% for those scoring at home).

To what do we owe this nasty behavior? Well, risk off is the easiest and most obvious answer. Everything's ugly.
If the popular wisdom was "tech can't bottom until big tech cracks"...then maybe we say "the market can't bottom until the best performer - energy - gives some back". This week people sold winners (energy, oil, gas) and losers (lots of other sectors).
Read 18 tweets
May 11
I have been one-directional in raving energy industry looks attractive. #EFT #OOTT Tight supply/demand AND structural underpin of Energy Security with Russia situation.Price is the one datapoint that (is supposed to) reflect all variables going into the collective market thinking
I guess that is why chart people usually focus so heavily on price (and volume) - in a reasonably deep market like oil and gas, it is a dispassionate indicator of a jillion smart people with a jillion different objectives (trading, hedging, consuming, etc)
Sure, oil price is often wrong. The oil futures curve rarely accurately predicts big moves up or down. Which is what allows us fundamental folks to “have a chance” at forecasting whether oil is cheap or expensive. But i digress.
Read 14 tweets
Mar 31
A lot to unpack around President's press conf remarks on SPR, gasoline, etc. Thread below.

Conclusion: Nothing I saw today makes me less bullish about owning energy equities.
Watch the back end of the curve (trading higher) - that is the tell. FY25 WTI is $73 going to $80+.
First observation: Remember, no matter how many comments about patriotism, "the good of the world/country", there is a political dynamic that can't be ignored. Biden is taking a hit in approval ratings on high gasoline prices and midterms are coming up.
Biden - "Put profits to work to produce more and stop exploiting the current situation and shipping profits to investors".

My comment - please remember the oil industry doesn't set price..if they did why were prices terrible for years?
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Apr 2, 2020
Have been pondering this $WLL situation. #EFT outrage over exec comp. Understandable..in old days, a BK company fired old management and hired new ones. Those people well paid, but usually less than prior team. Didn’t feel quite as icky. Thread continues...
Thinking deeper, lets realize a BK company is virtually worthless for prior equity holders. That value incinerated as assets < liabilities, old equity essentially worth zero. Creditors become new equity, throwing standard 3% bone to old equity. Minimizes lawsuits I guess.
Now the meat of the conversation. Creditors = new equity = decision makers. They are the ones deciding to keep on the prior management teams. They are the ones giving them big comp and ownership packages.
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