Here's my foolproof strategy for dealing with hotels that don't want to take foreigners: I don't.

Step 1:
Go on Ctrip, search for hotels and check the box for "Accept Foreign Guests" filter.

Step 2:
Book a hotel. Image
3. You can also call ahead and confirm.

I've still been able to book places that weren't tagged as "Accepts Foreign Guests" by calling. Sometimes they just skip that setting in Ctrip.

As long as it doesn't explicitly say: "only for locals". Image
This has been the case for many years. I wouldn't assess whether it's changing for better or worse with anecdotes.

I maintain the same position I've had every time this came up before on Twitter: unless you're brand new to China, you should know and be able to plan around it.
Is it discrimination? I don't think so, but I also have a pretty high tolerance for dumb things affecting foreigners.

We were usually just overlooked, or someone was too being lazy to do their job properly, rather than it being intentionally exclusionary or discriminatory.
See e.g. my recent case in Changsha where the city-designated "home quarantine" hotel was one that was unable to accept foreigners, because the person who chose the hotels overlooked the possibility of foreigners coming to Changsha. #eyeroll

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Jul 5
What makes a Chinese city qualify as a "ghost city?" A thread.🧵

After leaving Chenzhou, we made our way to Jishou 吉首, in west Hunan.

Jishou is a good jumping-off point for travel to Fenghuang Ancient City, Dehang Canyon, Furong Village, etc.

Jishou itself is...very empty. Image
Background: Jishou is different from other cities I've visited so far. Jishou is the capital of the Xiangxi Tujia and Miao Autonomous Prefecture.

Autonomous prefectures are on the same level as prefecture-level cities.

Xiangxi 湘西 means "West Hunan" and that's where it is: Image
This means Jishou doesn't really match up with a prefecture-level 地级市 OR a county-level city 县级市. It's its own thing, a "Region capital" 州首府.

Jishou's official population is just over 400k people, which is roughly comparable to a county-level city (Zixing was 320k). Image
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Observations on life in a small-city in Hunan - Conclusion!

This is the last thread about Chenzhou/Zixing. It started out as a commentary on the "median Chinese citizen" and turned into an investigation of tourism development.

Now I want to talk about Covid effects and FOOD.
The image above is from a huge property development in front of the Chenzhou West Train Station.

From the train station, it looks impressive, but walking up close, you can see most of the storefronts have no tenants and probably only 30% of the units are occupied.
I had walked over to the property development to get some food. ONE noodle shop was still open - every other shop had a padlock on the door & a "for rent" sign on the door.

The boss of the one noodle shop told me these apartments were completed in 2019 just before covid hit.
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I'd like to share some learnings on small-city China.

For 4 days, I've been in southern Hunan in the city of Chenzhou (郴州).

Chenzhou is not a big or famous city. But its stories are worth telling anyway.

I'll tell you why in this thread:🧵 Image
Let me start with a framing question:

Where do most CN people live? Big cities? Small cities? Villages?

I was curious. So I summed the populations of all 19 1st & "New 1st" Tier cities in CN, and posted a quiz yesterday.

The sum was 293M, or just 20.7%:
Besides those 19 biggest cities, , we have:

- 30 2nd tiers: avg. foreigner should know most
- 70 3rd tiers: avg. Chinese will know >half. Foreigners fairly few.
- 90 4th tiers: Avg. Chinese will know a few.
- 128 5th tiers: “有这个城市吗?"

China's urbanized population is ~914M. Image
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Jun 27
Quiz time!

If you sum up all the populations of China's 1st tier and 2nd tier cities, what percentage of China's total population is represented?

Remember, there are four 1st tier cities and fifteen 2nd tier (aka "new 1st tier") cities.

(2021 estimates)
In addition to being a (maybe?) fun quiz, I have a point I plan to make with this in another thread.

I'll share the answer I calculated with everyone after I get a decent set of results from the poll.
Answer:

1st Tier Cities: ~83M people
2nd Tier Cities: ~210M people

= 293 Million

Divide by 1.1412 Billion

= 20.7%
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Jun 27
Related fun fact: the North Atlantic lobster is most common known as the "Boston lobster" to CN consumers, which for decades has been a huge point of frustration for Canadian exporters. They're the exact same crustacean. Only difference is the nationality of the lobsterman.
But one thing Maine lobstermen have that Canadians don't is the amazing Downeast accent.

If you've never heard a Downeast accent from central/coastal Maine, this will a surprise for you. Most people think it sounds like it comes from somewhere in the UK:
Here's an even better one. My god that's a thick Downeast accent.

This accent is disappearing now, but my mother grew up around it and can turn it on and off as she pleases.

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During the Trump-era trade war, China put a massive tariff on US seafood (including lobsters) which caused lobster trade from Maine (my home state, which is the only reason I care) to plummet.

It is indeed a poor state and lobster is the biggest and most important export.
That's it. I don't have any other followup or backup information. Chen's response is stupid.
Sorry if you like him. He has hits and misses. This was a miss.
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