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Jul 6, 2022 21 tweets 8 min read Read on X
I haven't talked truck logistics in a while. This thread 🧵will revisit truck logistics of the Russo-Ukrainian War.

1. What we thought we knew.
2. The logistical truth on the ground.
3. And how Ukraine's new HIMARS/GMLRS weapons are kicking over the logistical table.

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What we thought we knew came from the outstanding November 2021 piece by Alex Vershinn titled:

"FEEDING THE BEAR: A CLOSER LOOK AT RUSSIAN ARMY LOGISTICS AND THE FAIT ACCOMPLI"

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warontherocks.com/2021/11/feedin…
The passage I've clipped here was the heart of the November 2021 advanced Western understanding of Russian logistics.

The problem with the passage below is everything Alex Vershinn stated as a 'beer math' model of Russian truck logistics is horribly wrong.

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Alex Vershinn, like every other Western logistician, was blindsided by the 80 year/four generation Western intelligence failure to notice the Russian Army doesn't use mechanized logistics 'enhancers' to move its ammo & supplies.

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The Russian Army has no pallets, no forklifts nor any ISO containers.

This is what Russian Army artillery ammunition supply points look like.👇

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I've done several threads on this issue.

This thread is from 24 March 2022.

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And this one is from March 27th 2022 discussing the logistical advantages of Western & Chinese pallet capable supply trucks versus the Russian's complete lack.

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Alex Vershinn's assumption that six hours of work day will fill & empty three truckloads of supplies in a 24 hour work day needs to be divided by 3 or 4 due to the lack of pallets & all terrain forklifts

Moving ammo packaged thus by hand takes longer👇
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I've talked to Ukrainian soldiers in the @walter_report Twitter space & it is taking a whole day to do one round trip resupply run to a range of 90 km, not 90 miles.

While Alex Vershinn mentioned in passing that damage to infrastructure invalidated his 'beer math,' expanding
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...a bit on what 'infrastructure damage' means is required.

When people on Twitter think of destroying bridges in Ukraine, they think like this👇

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This Maxar video of the infamous "64 km convoy" north of Kyiv in mud season shows lots of little places where creeks or water drainage culverts go under the roads.

Any one of those blown up, see photo, require longer truck by-pass logistical routes.
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Infrastructure destroyed by Russian artillery plus the utter lack of mechanized logistics yields much different truck logistics 'beer math.'

1. 90 km on Ukrainian artillery ravaged roads is minimally a 2 hour drive one way or 4 hours on the road round trip.

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2. Since Russian trucks need to be loaded by hand, you are looking at least 3 hours to load & a further 3 hours to unload.

3. Add in needed break times for the drivers, etc. & 1 Russian tactical truck can do 1 supply run a day to between 60% & 75% the radius of action

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3. con't ...that 'FEEDING THE BEAR' beer math laid out, call it 30% of Vershinn's logistic capability model.

This has huge implications given the Ukrainian artillery depot interdiction campaign.

See @TheBaseLeg Russian Artillery Depot Strike thread👇
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And see the @COUPSURE Russian Artillery Depot Strike thread here:👇

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According to the US Army Chief of Staff, the latest versions of US GMLRS that Ukrainian HIMARS fire reach out to at least 85 km to hit within the various OSINT circular error probabilities of 3-to-7 meters.


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Effectively, GMLRS will push Russian tactical trucks outside their sustained one-day, round trip, supply range.

This means Russia is going to have to rely far more on railways than it has to date.

And the Russians have been relying more and more on railways.
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The easiest way to get around reduced truck supply lift is to 'bomb up' your tanks, AFV's and artillery at railway siding.

See the T-72 getting resupplied next to a train

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Or simply base, resupply & fire your longest ranged & most logistically intensive rocket artillery from railway siding.

See👇

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Once Ukraine works through the most critical artillery depots on it's list (map).

It will use all its newly acquired deep strike assets to slam Russian ammo supply trains like in those retweets.

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Russian ammo trains in range of GMLRS are a whole lot easier to find & strike than tactical trucks.

Plus, when detonated, extensive train clearance & EOD removal will have to happen before the rail lines line can be used again.

GMLRS means Russian logistics is hosed.
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Aug 23
Pay attention to the RuAF heavy equipment transporters (HET) in this video - 13 - carrying tracked vehicles and one front end loader backhoe.

RuAF tracked vehicles can't make long road marches w/o 60%(+) breakdowns & track wear.

Russo-Ukrainian War operational level🧵
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HET's & Flatbed train cars rolling stock are how the RuAF moves tracked vehicles to operational and strategic distances.

Soviet practice was to have a large HET fleet in Western Russia to move the 2nd strategic echelon of ground forces to invade NATO.

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The Soviet Red Army anticipated NATO would down a lot of railway bridges, plus a HET were also useful for moving lots of artillery ammo tonnage as well as vehicles.

Henry Schlottman' Nov 2022 substack lays out a 300 km road march sees 60% to 70% of

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web.archive.org/web/2023012605…
This is a WW2 US Army tank transporter/HET being used to move ammo & supplies rather than a tank.
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Aug 21
This is a quote by Lieutenant General Mykola Oleshchuk, Commander of Ukraine's Air Force (PSU):

"We see and know everything. Our precision bombs will get you anywhere!"

PSU Drone swarms versus VKS GBAD
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pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/…
The Russian VKS (Aerospace Force) can't protect its own bases inside Russia with SAM's against Ukrainian drone strikes.

Putin's dacha's, Army logistics & HQ's in occupied Ukraine & the Kerch bridge have priority for the remaining VKS SAM batteries
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Social media accounts talking about the continuing strength of Russian ground based air defense are persisting in their delusions since this is about their faith in ideology, not evidence and facts.

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Aug 20
This post is what anti-Ukrainian propaganda on X looks like.⬇️

So-called 'Ukrainian Orthodox Church' (UOC) referred to here is not Ukrainian.

It is a branch of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) in Ukraine. Most priests of Muscovian Patriarchate in Ukraine are agents of the FSB.

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When the Istanbul-based Orthodox patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople signed the formal decree confirming canonically the ‘Tomas of Autocephalous’ of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 2019 from the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC).

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He unleashed and separated Ukrainian religious identity and expression from that of the Russians.

Tomos for Ukraine’s Orthodox Church
See:


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Aug 19
There are sound, Russian military animal labor logistical reasons, for the crisis level freezing up of Russian railway cargo clearance @Prune602 outlines.⬇️

Russian Animal Labor Logistics in Crisis, railway edition🧵
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Just look at the pictures of 122 mm grad rocket wooden boxes in those rail cars.

There is zero chance of getting a forklift in there.

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The rest of the Russian Army's animal labor wooden box supply packaging looks like this⬇️

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Aug 19
Even Russian mil-bloggers are saying Russian has no strategic or operational reserves of ground troops for Kursk.

Plus, there are additional and very strong signs of the exhaustion of Russian military manpower reserves.

Lanchester & LeMay smile😈, VKS edition🧵
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See this is the translated Russian headline & 1st Paragraph:

""Space infantry" sent to defend Kursk region

Due to a shortage of personnel, the motorized rifles have written off military personnel from the Aerospace Forces units, including nuclear strike warning stations and heavy bomber regiments."
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istories.media/news/2024/08/1…
This is an Ukrainian article covering the same subject in english:

"The publication, citing sources, notes that a motorized rifle regiment composed of personnel from the Russian Aerospace Forces was formed in May-June for border protection. The so-called "space brigade" arrived in the border areas a few weeks before the Ukrainian breakthrough, in mid-July.

The unit included soldiers from security companies, engineers, mechanics, and a few officers from the flight crews. They were transferred to infantry from airfields in Ukrainka in Altai Krai, Belaya in Irkutsk region, and Engels in Saratov region."

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newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/space-bri…
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Aug 18
At the beginning of the AFU Kursk offensive there was a argument between @WarintheFuture and @sambendett over how transparent Ukrainian battlefields were given the strategic-operational surprise AFU achieved in Kursk Oblast.

History supports @WarintheFuture.

AFU Deception🧵
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The military art is called and "art" for a reason. The art is understanding human perceptions and exploiting them to achieve battlefield victories and win wars.

It is very clear that Ukraine faked not only Russian, but also Western intelligence and OSINT aggregators completely out of their collective jockstraps.

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This isn't to say @sambendett doesn't have some very good points about the behind Western state of the art sensor capabilities of the RuAF.

The VKS simply lacks ISR capabilities that the USAF & USN had 35 years ago.

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