1/ As you start in @logseq you'll soon experience the need to add structure to better navigate and retrieve your info.

Everyone has different needs, and there are a few ways to achieve similar results, as in the pic below.

Finding a way that works for you is part of the journey
@logseq 2/ Should you organise information top-down or bottom-up?

Bottom-up is when you're building links to existing information (usually, though not always) at the location where it is entered.

Top-down means building links to information from a higher-level point of departure.
@logseq 3/ It's not really a debate, rather 'both-and'.

Outliners allow you to branch your notes top-down, whilst easily zooming into & editing at the bottom levels

Bi-directional links mean you're getting a link at both the top and bottom level - you just need to know where to look 🙂
@logseq 4/ Most TfT users are now convinced of the power of linking, but using outlines is an under-rated super power IMO.

It's possible to house a lot of information on one page, rather than creating 'atomic' pages.

Having your half-formed ideas in one place makes it easy to dive in.
@logseq 5/ What about MOCs?

I think many users are confused by the concept. At their simplest, they function as top-down tables of contents or indexes.

But you can also use them as collecting points for your developing ideas (as described in 4 ☝🏽)

@logseq 6/ Your organisation will usually be chaotic to start: a mess of [[links]] & #tags.

This is good to ensure that you're easily able to resurface the information that you're looking for.

However, as your database grows, your friction points will reveal where structure is required
@logseq 7/ What am I doing? I default to outlining & bottom-up linking.

I've moved lots of atomic notes back from their own pages into outlines on MOC-type pages.

I also use a lot of properties. This allows me to use queries to generate tables if I want to.

@logseq 8/ The more interesting question for me is how to tag things for effective retrieval.

e.g. You can either use 1. [[meeting effectiveness]] 2. [[meetings/effectiveness]] or 3. [[effectiveness]] [[meetings]] .

Option 1 and 2 are my go-to's, and I'm leaning more to 2 recently.
@logseq 9/ I only started using Option 2 after watching @joshduffney's video. I was sceptical at first, but I've found it to be a good way to systematise my linking.

It's easy to input, works nicely in search & the dynamic tag index from namespaces is great!

@logseq @joshduffney 10/ There will always be trade-offs in approaches though. As I said, finding a way that works for you is part of the process.

If you're interested in learning more, check my bio.

(I'm working on my aversion to sales, but linking to my course from this thread still feels 'meh')

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May 26
Question: What should I link in my database?

The lazy answer: all the nouns - people, projects, places. But there's far more to it!

I've been thinking about different components of 'corporate' work & putting together a rough list of links that might help structure workflows.
Many knowledge workers will shift to personal (or collective) knowledge graphs & need frameworks for organising their information.

There are existing frameworks (e.g. the RDF, see wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:…) which can be leveraged, but everyone will have their own preferences.
You'll know the feeling of wanting to do something your own way if you've ever opened someone else's Excel model or Notion DB.

It will take time to develop & refine approaches that feel intuitive to the individual, but still conform to protocols that allow for interoperability.
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May 6
1/ I believe that page properties are going to become an ever-increasing part of @logseq workflows and systems in the future (possibly more so than block properties)

Adding properties to pages (and blocks) adds resolution to links by specifying the nature of the relationship. Image
2/ Have a look at what @zsviczian is doing in Obsidian with TheBrain plugin to make the graph view more powerful.

It's all based on meta-data, which is implemented in Logseq using properties. It's only a matter of time before we see similar functionality in Logseq (I hope!)
3/ However, most people's experience with page properties is this greyed out block.

Depending on when you joined Logseq, you will often find page titles in YAML format when you click into that block. To change this to the new format, delete the dashes and add another colon Image
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May 4
1/ Every person is a combination of many parts.

These parts are constantly expressing themselves in the beautiful and chaotic dance of life. Over the years, it's natural for dominant parts to take centre stage.

Other parts of you might be suppressed or put away for a rainy day.
2/ Now combine this with our dualism. When we judge others (or ourselves) we often default to binary definitions of 'good' or 'bad'.

Judgements become all-consuming causal loops: 'she is a good person because of x'; 'he is a bad person because he did y'.

One strike, you're out!
3/ A family man of 30 years has a one-night-stand on a business trip...

Does that make him 'bad'? The act itself is bad if it was outside of the marital agreement.

However, I'm sure many can acknowledge the part of themselves that longs for similar forbidden, novel excitement?
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Apr 20
1/ What makes @logseq such a great tool is that it's actually a combination of 3 different tools

- A text editor
- An outliner
- A linked network building tool

This makes the application highly versatile - a real 'integrated thinking environment'
2/ As a text editor, it allows you to work on text files stored wherever you want, rather than a database hosted by the app you're using.

This gives you full ownership of your notes (for a lifetime!) and the extensibility to use them with other tools like VS Code and Obsidian.
3/ As an outliner, you can quickly add structure and hierarchy through indenting.

This transforms your notes into a tree-like structure, which can be as simple or as complex as needed. Each branch can function as a new document if you want it to.

📸 below uses Markmap plugin
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Apr 11
1/ I'm a big fan of frameworks.

This weekend I was updating my "personal operating system" frameworks. I've become a fan of Excalidraw recently, so I figured I would sketch something out.

It's by no means mutually exclusive or complete, but I think it's a good starting point. Image
2/ I've separated it into 2 parts: homeostasis and growth (forgive the lack of biological correctness)

Homeostasis is about being okay with where I am right now and having stability and freedom (however one might define it)

Growth is about ampliflication & having more to share.
3/ The most important for me is doing part 1 well, i.e. find & maintain personal homeostasis.

My goal is to do more "satisficing" than "maximising". Personally, this means having a clearer view of what my most important pillars are, and what "enough" looks like in those pillars.
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