Many people suggest that trans people have brains more inline with their desired gender, and this causes feelings of gender incongruence.
However, if we take a closer look, we see some important underlying issues.
In a famous study, the authors compared prepubertal and adolescent children, then suggest sex atypical cerebral differentiation occurs within these individuals. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28972892/
The authors found sex atypical differences in the adolescent cohort (when the majority of the cohort is homosexual)
Homosexuality = 23% of trans boys + 44% of trans girls (prepubertal children; left)
Homosexuality = 100% of trans boys + 78% of trans girls (adolescent; right)
The only non-sex typical finding which was specific to gender dysphoria (GD) was in visual network-1 (VN-1; via fMRI)
It was suggested that alterations in this network may disrupt body perception in GD individuals.
In another study by some of the same authors, they tested whether transgender people (with GD) would have sex atypical hypothalamic activation to androstenedione (a steroid hormone in human sweat that causes sex-specific olfactory responses). ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
But similar to the previous study, sexual orientation was not accounted for.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that the only people with any sort of sex atypical cerebral differentiation occurs in homosexual individuals (on average).
Notice the high similarity in amygdala activity (at rest) between heterosexual females and homosexual males (and vice versa)
Interestingly, in an effort to bring all of this together, Savic et al., 2011 examined the brains of heterosexual transgender people in order to control for sexual orientation. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21467211/
The authors found sexual dimorphism in various gray matter parameters in control male and females. However, these findings were NOT found in the heterosexual transgender population.
So rather than sex atypical brain structure/function, what is specific to GD itself?
It’s been shown that individuals with GD show weaker structural & functional connectivity within the default mode network (DMN) of the brain, which is vital for body perception/image and self referential processing nature.com/articles/s4159…
The DMN consists of cerebral midline structures, including the medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) and the posterior cingulate cortex (PCC)
Interestingly, it’s been shown that trans individuals (with GD) show a stronger activation pattern within these DMN structures when viewing pictures of their body morphed to the opposite sex pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31813993/
You can see the results here:
It’s important to note that correlation is NOT causation. Just because we observe a different pattern in GD subjects compared to neuro-typical controls, doesn’t not suggest it’s innate (born with) or a product of post natal experience. We simply don’t know.
Also, transgender people tend to have lots of co-morbidities from depression, anxiety, anorexia, autism, and a homosexual orientation. All of this needs to be considered when looking at neuroscience studies on this population.
For an overview on molecular hypothalamic differences in relation to homosexuality and gender dysphoria, see thread here:
You make the claim that the hypothalamic nuclei (the BSTc in the cited Zhou et al., 1995 study), in transwomen is similar to that of natal women. However, you fail to mention that the BSTc doesn’t become dimorphic until 30-35 years of age and instead assume causality.
You then go onto talk about a few papers (vaguely) that include functional brain activity, neuroimaging (looking at cortical thickness), and various responses.
You fail to mention the impact that homosexuality may have on the results and make the assumption of causality (again)
This paper suggests that untreated male-to-female transsexuals (MtF; n = 18) and FtMs (n = 24) show signs of feminisation and masculinisation, respectively, in relation to cortical thickness (CTh).
Let’s take a look:
In their whole-brain comparison on CTh in relation to sexual dimorphism, the authors found that FtMs did not differ from female controls (thus having a CTh pattern congruent with their biological sex). Similarly, MtFs also did not differ to female controls (thus having a CTh pattern reflective of the opposite sex).
However, both sets of transsexual subjects did show some differences in relation to both male and female controls (see figure below):
Brain activation patterns (those involved in self-referential/own body-perception processing) in trans men (n=14) & women (n=16) are similar to those of male (n=15) & female (n=15) controls, except when viewing their bodies morphed to the opposite sex: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31813993/
Participants wore a skin-tight suit which was virtually morphed to appear more masculine or feminine, representing images that are associated with either their natal sex or the opposite sex.
They then view these images in different increments in an fMRI scanner:
As expected, trans participants subjectively rated their bodies morphed toward the opposite sex as being more like "me", whereas male and female controls rated their natal sexed body images as being more like "me":
NEW STUDY: This is the first attempt to assess the translational potential for utilizing mice as a model for investigating human sex differences in the brain, focusing on regional grey matter volume (GMV).
Let's take a look 👀
Using a large cohort from the Human Connectome Project (597 females & 496 males) and mice (213 females & 216 males), total tissue volume (TTV; i.e., brain size) was assessed.
Human males showed a 13.5% larger TTV, whereas mice showed no such sex difference:
After TTV correction + multiple comparisons, 65.8% of the human brain showed statistically significant sex differences, of which 63.8% were female-bias & 36.3% were male-bias.
In mice, 58.6% of all regions were sexually dimorphic, with 53% being female-bias & 47% male-bias.
@hanksfolly @SimpForSowell @HermanSonofHerm @Anna11Ebiza @RoisinMichaux There is 100% research that demonstrates the impact of homosexuality on the cross-sex shift.
Let’s see some examples:
@hanksfolly @SimpForSowell @HermanSonofHerm @Anna11Ebiza @RoisinMichaux In this paper, transgender participants (pre-pubescent and adolescent) smelled a pheromone (androstenedione; AND) which is known to cause a sex difference in hypothalamic activation via fMRI.
@hanksfolly @SimpForSowell @HermanSonofHerm @Anna11Ebiza @RoisinMichaux The pre-pubescent trans participants showed no sex-atypicality (their sexual orientation, as a group, was considerably more varied). The adolescent participants showed a cross-sex shift (the vast majority were homosexual).
This is a thread reviewing two papers that are cited in support of the ‘brain-sex’ theory of gender dysphoria regarding the central subdivision of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc). The two studies in question are Zhou et al., 1995 and Kruijver et al., 2000:
The first paper (Zhou et al) investigated the volume of the BSTc via the staining of vasoactive intestinal polypeptide (VIP) fibre innovation arising from the amygdala in 6 male-to-female transsexuals (MtFs): pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7477289/
The BSTc in males was 44% larger than in females. In MtFs (who were all on cross-sex hormone treatment), the volume of the BSTc was found to be within the female range and seemed independent of sexual orientation (as seen by homosexual males being sex-typical):