Maya Forstater Profile picture
Jul 26 30 tweets 13 min read
Stonewall's defensive briefing about its Diversity Champions scheme just keeps getting longer

#StonewallLies

stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/…
Stonewall provides advice to *employers* ... they are referring to the wrong Code of Practice here.

Their guidance differs markedly from the Code of Practice

They've got unpublished legal advice? 🤷‍♀️ Great. "Trust us!"

sex-matters.org/wp-content/upl…
For example the Code of Practice says that where an employee is transitioning the employer should talk to them about using *different* facilities.

Stonewall say that all facilities are provided based on gender-self identity
"gender identity" they say can be used interchangeably with "gender reassignment"
The impact of this is that they tell employers *not* to monitor the protected characteristic of sex, but only "gender identity"

.... trans women are women you see.
What they subtly misstate here is that the protection against discrimination in the Equality Act does not mean that a person has changed sex
Here they say they don't want to ban the word "mother" they just want to redefine it, and make it impossible to use to describe the rights of actual mothers.

In their view a man who has fathered a child can be a "mother"
Does Stonewall see a conflict between employers obligations to protect "LGBTQ+" (that's not a protected characteristic!) and gender critical employees.

No they say...
Why then did they lead this open letter condemning the EHRC for intervening in my case?

consortium.lgbt/ehrc-open-lett…
Why did their Head of Trans Inclusion email Garden Court Chambers to complain about Allison Bailey express gender critical views on the internet and chairing a WPUK meeting?
With one breath they say protection for GC beliefs are "very narrow", and with the next they tell employers to go above and beyond the law.

In fact protection against harassment & discrimination is the same for any PCs. That's why its called the *Equality* Act
Its normal to use everyday language to describe the law they say ....

... but also the Equality Act doesn't use the term "biological sex" 🙄
The EHRC's new guidance on single-sex services is confusing therefore.

(everyone knows "sex" means what Judith Butler says, its not confusing at all... )
This is what the Equality Act says.

Sex discrimination includes discrimination related to pregnancy, birth and breastfeeding.

(But its nothing to do with biological sex says Stonewall)
This is nonsense.

There is an *exception* which allows the provision of single-sex services.

The Equality Act sets out a list of circumstances where these exceptions can be applied. It does not mention "gender identity"
Being a Stonewall Diversity Champion or Workplace Equality member does not affect impartiality they say
They email Diversity Champions members and encourage them to tweet in support of Stonewall's preferred legal changes.

And then award them Workplace Equality Index points for doing so.
Are we campaigning to amend the Equality Act. No they. say.

Meanwhile what they told the Women and Equality Select Committee was yes.
And here again in their vision for change.

2 - reform to Equality Act

(also 4. judicial clarity on "sex by discrimination" - that means removing protection from rape victims)
"many of these cases"

This was a single case
Will this judgment stand the test of time?

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2021/01/12/cps…
This is what Nancy Kelley said about Stonewall's desire to influence the BBC
This is what the Information Commissioner's Office says

"Such is the potential for a scheme to be misused as a campaigning tool, the Commissioner considers that there is an unusually strong public interest in transparency. "
The Stonewall Workplace Equality Index is quite clearly a tool for ideological enforcement sex-matters.org/posts/updates/…
Stonewall complain about FOI requests.

What they don't say is that the advice they have been giving to members to claim "commercial interests" and "confidentiality" is not in line with the law, according to the ICO

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/…
Yesterday they added this shocking barefaced lie, trying to distance themself from the previous day's tweet about 2 year olds being trans

(can you see why they don't want to use the terms "sex" and "transsexual" which are in the Equality Act?)

Organisations that are concerned: This is bad advice.

Don't look to Stonewall's FAQ or unpublished legal advice to get the facts or the law straight.

Ask your general counsel, not the LGBTQ+ team or your social media colleagues.
Promote real inclusion, which recognises that everyone has equal human rights.

Everyone has a sex, and there are important legal protections against sex discrimination, sexual orientation discrimination, belief discrimination and for "gender reassignment".

[ENDS]
And the thread keeps going....

Are they or aren't they involved with nursery schools?

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Maya Forstater

Maya Forstater Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @MForstater

Jul 27
Everything crossed for @BluskyeAllison 's judgment today (high noon)

Its a complicated case with lots of moving parts and players

Here is the list of issues broken down showing the combination of points she has to win for each claim (my summary)

docs.google.com/document/d/1VA…
There are 4 claims:
1. Victimisation by GCC (did they subject her to detriments after she did a series of protected acts?)

2. Direct discrimination by GCC (did they treat her less favourably because of her beliefs on sex, gender & Stonewall & is the belief covered by S10 Eq A?)
3. Indirect discrimination by GCC (did they apply a policy, criterion or practice in relation by treating GC beliefs as bigoted & involving Stonewall that indirectly disadvantaged women and/or lesbians)?
Read 5 tweets
Jul 25
"Read our statement" - but don't reply (because obviously we block replies... )

This is so dishonest

#StonewallOut of schools
This is what the article said
Read 5 tweets
Jul 21
.@Nike advert in the Guardian today "Everybody has the right to run"

Remember: the Court of Arbitration for Sport has upheld DSD regulations as a necessary, reasonable & proportionate means of achieving the legitimate objective of ensuring fair competition in female athletics
"I am a woman and I am fast. I worked. I trained I dedicated my entire life to running. That's what make me good"

Really Nike, really?
What the advert does not say...

The DSD regulations apply to people with

- XY chromosomes
- testes not ovaries
- testosterone in the male range
- the ability to make use of testosterone

worldathletics.org/news/press-rel…
Read 6 tweets
Jul 20
This from @Girlguiding is such dangerous, reality-defying nonsense

"My husband and I are lucky enough to be parents of a seven-year-old girl, Rainbow... she is the same, except when she was born, we assumed she was a boy."

girlguiding.foleon.com/guiding-magazi…
At 18m Rainbow identified more w female characters, toys and book ‘Some ppl suggested we just say no, encourage her to identify w male characters, but how can u explain that to a young child? To what end? No to playing w toys she loved or characters she loved to pretend to be?'
So instead tell the child they *are* a girl. 🙄

How can you explain that to a child - "when you grow up you will develop the body of a man, because you are male...unless we put you on powerful experimental drugs that will stop you body and brain developing....
Read 6 tweets
Jul 17
Penny Mordaunt: spot the difference.

Speaking to LGBTQ+ conservatives in 2018 she was bullish about legislation and said

"I think we have to do more to really combat some of the crazy myths that get bandied around as though they’re fact or genuine issues."...
Speaking to Mumsnetters in 2019 no mentions of myths or falsehoods:

"On these matters you’ll find me to be understanding and highly pragmatic. I get your concerns about this."

mforstater.medium.com/85-questions-o…
To LGBTQ+ Conservatives

"we have to ...aggressively combat the hate and the ignorance that is bandied around, whether it’s in the media or whether it’s other campaign groups that are spreading falsehoods. "

spectator.co.uk/article/reveal…
Read 4 tweets
Jul 16
Some more toilet thoughts...

There is no legal requirement for separate sex toilets

But workplace regs, practicality and Building Code M - means that in high traffic, larger buildings the standard solution is something along this lines.
Separate sex toilets w stalls including accessible and enlarged ones, washbasins outside for speed of use. Gaps top and bottom for safety and ease of cleaning.

Plus urinals in the mens, again for hygiene and speed.
Designers know that toilets invite trouble and they design for that in their angles

You shouldn't be able to see in from the main door to cubicle doors.

The women's loo are at the end of the corridor, so that men have no excuse to be anywhere near.

Windows are frosted glass
Read 22 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(