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Aug 10 12 tweets 4 min read
#MonkeyPoxIsAirborne - or at least that's the conclusion that I am left with after yet another preprint.

Office worker in the UK. In her office, everyone wears masks. She was wearing a surgical mask.

SHE HAD NO LESIONS. You see she left the office before they showed up. Image
So, she's wearing a surgical mask. Could have taken it off while eating lunch -but I'm thinking not.

".... following onset of a mild,
57 influenza-like illness, and took steps to reduce mixing and avoid close contact with others." Image
There was not a tremendous amount of virus in the office. But she was only there for one day. Wearing a surgical mask which does .provide some source control.

How much? Glad you asked!

Depends on the study, but roughly 42%

ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-… Image
It's true that her hands could have contaminated the environment.

But I don't think so. Hand sanitizer was available -and this was a conscientious individual. She would have been hand sanitizing like crazy since that's what the UK IPC guidance has focused on.
So, the environment wasn't strongly contaminated- or so we would think - no big deal.

The authors would disagree - and found that the head to toe cleaning of the office was warranted.

For one person. For one day. Wearing a surgical ask. Image
To tell the truth, I almost blew off the study. It was @harisankars1's comment that there was respiratory secretions involved that caught my attention.

Big H/t!

For my fellow aerosol study readers out there - it pays to read even the fomite studies.

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
One last thought. America? You really, really better hope that Monkeypox remains not very transmissible.

That it doesn't end up mutating into being more transmissible.

Because Monkeypox IS airborne - even in a fomite study.
Some good push-back offline, so going to add that here.

We don't actually know the efficacy of the mask, and she could have touched the mask.

Very true, but it really doesn't matter. What this is showing us is there was only one possible source for that contamination.
Because she had no lesions, it only could have been her respiratory system.

Droplets have been beaten to death by the airborne work on CoVid. Feel free to push back, and I would be happy to inundate you with studies that will keep you reading for a month.
So, it is only aerosols truly at play here. And aerosols are airborne.

Someone else observed that she could have lesions in her throat and mouth. Absolutely. All the way up and down the LRT and URT. Been shown in this same thread.

But that's just another mechanism for
aerosols embedded with Monkeypox to be produced.

Respiratory secretions/mucus/ fluid will cover the lesion, and the virii will end up the fluid.

Which then gets aerosolized via the usual shearing, etc when we talk, etc.
Only one possible source for that contamination.

Her respiratory system.

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More from @LazarusLong13

Aug 11
@oni_blackstock I am concerned about the turn in the numbers from the CDC for Monkeypox:

"The proportion of cases among blacks has increased during recent weeks."

stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/119938

I am also concerned because in the below thread

/1 Image
I figured out how to determine what was being asked in regards to transmission.

Essentially, they are simply confirming what they already think.

That Monkeypox is not airborne.

We saw the racial inequities revealed by CoVid being airborne.

The rich white elites
urging an urgencyofnormal, while POC families screamed for that to stop.
Read 6 tweets
Aug 11
Imagine you are working at the CDC and see an explosion of monkeypox cases in America.

You desperately want to get to the bottom of why the cases are increasing so rapidly.

But you are on the outside looking in.

The only way to get those details is to talk Image
to each person. Impossible for any small team.

So, you design a questionnaire to capture everything you want to know.

(CDC wears these types of black uniforms, so :). )
You would push for the case report form that was pushed out on June 3, 2022, to be as inclusive as possible, right?

"How many minutes was the activity that caused the infection, do you think?"

"Were you just talking or engaged in sex?"

So, I found it.

cdc.gov/poxvirus/monke…
Read 11 tweets
Aug 10
Great find. Interestingly, the government said one of the possibilities was airborne.

The scientists said no way.

So, I went and read the report. Image
So, we have two regular scientists disbelieving a crystal clear report.

Of course, the government did lay out two other possibilities, so they had that to hang their hats on.

But to me, this combined with the fact that the CDC in Monkeypox is insisting in saying that "prolonged
Read 4 tweets
Aug 10
I've just deleted a tweet where I stated that Monkeypox is only handled at BSL4 labs - that was incorrect.

The law does state that:
law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/73…

But, there was a caveat not viewable on that page, but over here is citation #4.

selectagents.gov/sat/list.htm

My apologies! Image
#MonkeyPoxisAirborne - because we breathe it out through - even when there are NO lesions present.

If lesions are present, then it's even more airborne due to those nasty little skin flakes.

Mask up, folks.

#MonkeyPoxIsAirborne - via a saliva test that correctly predicted the infected.

Huh?

Please bear with me.

Excellent results for saliva test:
medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

This is huge for ring vaccination strategies.

Also, huge for airborne. 5 of 22 had no symptoms at the Image
Read 4 tweets
Aug 10
Biden's Post CoVid cough.

Not a big deal right? Might want to rethink that.
video.foxnews.com/v/631064468111…
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

For one thing? Technically, he's a long-hauler.

Is he alone in the cough? 10 to 30% experience it. So, he's got a lot of company. Image
What causes the cough?

Could be derangement of the CNS - the CNS's functioning is disturbed (not good ).

Could be lung fibrosis - really not good. Image
Read 5 tweets
Aug 10
Ah, @Dr_Jeremy_Young. Are you always this nasty- or is this just the usual run-of-the-mill misogyny?

At this point, most anyone reading your tweets, would say that YOU are the one making the world a worse place. Literally 1, 2 tweets in a row.
/1
She is presenting the rat issue from a position of concern.

Which is shared by someone just a little bit more knowledgeable - and a lot more nicer than you.

/2

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