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@theliverdr
Aug 30, 2022 • 8 tweets • 3 min read • Read on X
I paid 18K & checked Liv.52 used by chronic liver disease patient who developed herb-liver injury & liver failure, so that you don't have to.

People/patients decide if you would want this junk in you.

Doctors decide if you want this junk inside your patients.

#Ayush #Ayurveda Image
‼️ CAUTION‼️
Lot of lay persons, non-med professionals, wannabe med professionals (Ayurveds), absolutely not med professionals (Homeopaths) r giving free med advise in this thread.

Please ignore them and their advises. I cant debunk it all because its a swarm of misinformation.
Please note that this is not the first time.
Herbal supplements industry are taking people for a long ride since ages. Only the ignorant keep riding

Proof 1:
Here is analysis on Liv.52 and Coronil a while back.
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Proof number 3:
Proof number 4:
This peer reviewed, published study from our group

analyzed multiple herbal products, including Liv 52 and other drugs

which led to progressive liver failure and death in many

See Supplementary Section for more details
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P… Image
Himalaya company has given a blanket letter rebuttal saying they follow regulation blah, blah...and has bots/new accounts retweeting same without shame.

There are paid services that gives you likes/retweets
Looks like Himalaya went that way. Pathetic.

Indian Ayurveda companies showing heavy metals are ok in their drugs while quoting unscientific authorities must see what real guidelines look like.

Thus is from Australia Health Authorities where heavy metals are not allowed and they even banned...

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Apr 13
The classical response from Ayurveda practitioners or Ayurveda sympathizers (and other alternative medicine practitioners) when debating the role of alternative medicine in healthcare is to "go and study Ayurveda or read Ayurveda" to understand it better. This is a logical fallacy, a kind of escapism. Dr. Kanojia here, has not read the Ayurvedic texts, which is why, he keeps fielding for Ayurveda.

India has a 5 year teaching course for students for Bachelors in Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery called BAMS.

I have the complete syllabus collection of all curriculum approved text books of Ayurveda in my home library. I spent almost two years reading every single book taught in BAMS syllabus.

Classical Ayurvedic teaching material is rich in misogyny, nauseatingly magical thinking, extreme levels of animal cruelty and meat eating, primitive observations, primal herbal and interventional therapies and principles of practice based on obsolete humoral and elemental theories of disease formation and diagnosis.

For example:

For treatment of large tumors, honey was applied over the growth, flies are allowed to lay eggs on the tumor and the maggots are allowed to eat the tumor from within. The residual tumor is then burned off.

For women in obstructive labor, the hips, buttocks are beaten, the lady is made to inhale smoke from burned snake skin and feathers are used for tickling.

For the treatment of tuberculosis (there was no germ theory at the time, but descriptions of emaciation in tuberculosis was observed) the patient is fed herbs and made to drink alcohol (alcohol is in fact one of the risk factors for tuberculosis as we know now) and cure is achieved by massages from "beautiful ladies."

For treatment of seizures in children, demons were considered the cause (they still teach this in the BAMS curriculum) and such demonic possessions were slayed using prayers and chants.

For treatment of diabetes (there was no knowledge of actual diabetes, it was called Premeha and there were different types of Premeha based on diet/ activity, semen quality and based on "doshas". Ayurvedic texts describe some of the causes of "diabetes" to eating meat and drinking milk. There are nearly 20 types of diabetes described in Ayurveda - which of course, is nonsense.

For treatment of sexual disorders, testicles of various types of animals were boiled with herbs and the formulation applied or drank to increase sexual prowess and to "have sex with a 1000 women."

The bottom line is, if you actually read/study the Ayurvedic texts, you'll realize how completely absurd & pseudoscientific the whole system is and you'll never vouch for it again. I am sharing some excerpts from BAMS textbooks in the subsequent post.

Do not send your children to study BAMS and of course, do not read these texts. I did, so that you dont have to. It will take you to a dark place.
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Sep 20, 2023
1 of 45

"There is a place, but it is a long journey
If there is any hope for your jaundiced father, this place holds it"

"Where is it?" - the young man enquires

"A place called Kochi"

A son
A dying father
A terrifying battle
A terrible liver disease

From Telangana to Kerala Image
2 of 45

Few months ago, Deepak, a middle aged man started losing appetite

As days progressed, he felt lethargic and every small work became a chore

Hailing from a small town and with a small family in Telangana, he was taken to a local doctor...
3 of 45

Deepak's wife, a homemaker, looked after their family with love and motherly care

Deepak was the sole bread winner, with 2 children

His daughter started medical school on hefty fees, and the son was about to join an engineering college...
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Jun 29, 2023
Number of people dead from small pox from 1900 to 1980 - THREE HUNDRED MILLION.

Number of people dead due to small pox after 1980
- ZERO. https://t.co/AyC2qFAvkp
Diphtheria

Number of deaths in 1920's before introduction of vaccine, reported annually in the United States - 13,000 to 15,000.

Number of deaths reported from 1996 to 2018 in the United States - ONE.
https://t.co/ISKQJuqHeA
Polio
Outbreak in 1916 - 2000 dead
Outbreak in 1952 - 3000 dead
Survivors - disabled for life.

Number of cases after 1994 in Western Hemisphere
- ZERO.
https://t.co/EBLgktBQPO


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Jun 6, 2023
1/
 Ok some friends sent me private messages that I was harsh on Rachit. They feel that I have to correct Rachit's presumed "Busting" of my tweet content by "Busting" his tweet content on mine. So here goes. Stay for the real science friends. Image
2/
 Rachit says creatine is FOR ALL but gives no evidence to back his claims and goes on to copy paste biochemistry of creatine from a Google search.

International Society of Sports Nutrition position specifies creatine use in sports & athletics only...
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P… Image
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...and not in others. There is some inconclusive data in patients with muscular dystrophy and aging population, but they are not solid recommendations. In fact all recommendations are in training professionals only and not otherwise.
jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.11…
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Jun 6, 2023
This is some real epic sh*t from Ankur Warikoo. So epic, that its worthy of immediate flushing.

➡️Whey protein for special populations - atheletes, sportspersons, bodybuilders, chronic liver and kidney disease ✅️

➡️Omega 3 supplements is only useful in people with high… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… ImageImage
Collateral damage. Local creatine dealer feeling the heat. Image
A Gym-bro tries to debunk the factual details I have provided (he claims "everything busted") in the tweet but instead, lands head-on, in his own epic sh*t.

I cant even understand where these science-illiterates get the brains & guts (I know they have the balls, because their… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
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May 19, 2023
I was invited to The Hindu Parley Podcast via @the_hindu to discuss and debate the Indian Government's new move on integrating Ayurveda & Homeopathy with conventional (modern, science-based) medicine.

I spoke with @zubeda_h and discussed "against" the standpoint that… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
PS: Here is the excerpt section from The Hindu Opinion published today (I suggest listening to the close to 43 minutes podcast for a fat better take on the subject from two viewpoints). twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
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