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Here's Trump's response (h/t @SarahNLynch): storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…

It starts out confused and confusing (and I expect it to continue that way).

He thinks it was okay if he had records that didn't belong to him as long as they were in a "secure setting."
"Presidential records" by definition under the PRA, do not belong to him.

In response to the government's explanation that (1) he doesn't own presidential records and (2) personal records stored with stolen stuff have evidentiary value, he quotes the 4th Amendment privacy right.
He seems to think that his right to privacy includes the right to conceal documents that are not his 😕

I mean seriously?

The fruit of the poisonous tree means that evidence obtained in an illegal search can't be admitted at trial, but the search wasn't illegal. . .
. . . and the remedy is a pretrial motion to suppress the evidence, not a special master.

I think the highlighted sentence means that he is still asserting ownership rights over presidential records.
Trump himself wrote this sentence. There is no other explanation.

I think the logic is that if he took presidential records, the only statute he can possibly violate is the Presidential records act.
He also must have written this one, too⤵️

The PRA does not give a former president the right to possess documents.

Because he's insisting that he has a right to possess the documents, everything that follows from that will be gibberish (because he doesn't).
This is what I mean ⤵️

I'm having trouble translating from gibberish to English, but I think here he is saying that even if he doesn't own the stuff that the government seized, he still has the right to challenge the search.

(But that's not what a special master is for.)
He goes on and on, conflating his right to challenge a search as unreasonable with his request for a special master.

A special master, for example, screens for privileged docs, which has nothing to do with whether a search comported with the Fourth Amendment.
The logic here seems to be that there are no enforcement provisions in the Presidential Record Act, so the fact that he refused to give them back is not an illegal act, which means he was entitled to possess them, which means he should get a special master.😕
He actually seems to be challenging his right to possess the documents.

I guess he's moved on from "the documents were planted" and arrived at "I have the right to keep them."
The government argued that the fact that he claims the documents were privileged is proof that he isn't supposed to have the because under the PRA, privileged docs belong in the Archives.

He responds with: The fact that they are privileged means a special master is appropriate.
It's like trying to have a discussion with a cinderblock.

He's either dumb or willfully not understanding that the filter review can be completed while the review for harm to national security is ongoing.
I like this one: The only reason we know about any of this is (1) Trump announced the search, and (2) he filed this silly lawsuit.

Yet, he suggests that a special master is needed or the government will selectively leak.
Remember when I first wrote my FAQs in response to demands that the DOJ tell the public about the ongoing investigations, and I said no no no it needs to be leakproof and carried out with the highest integrity?

This is why. These accusations now sound silly.
Next, he doesn't like the procedures that the DOJ is following (even though they were set out in the warrant).

As far as a special master, he wants to add conditions, including allowing his lawyer to review the material for privilege.

(Note: he means executive privilege)
The first highlighted sentence may have been a slip. He's not the president.

He continues to frame what happened as "standard give-and-take . . . regarding Presidential library contents. . ."

So he was assembling a presidential library with all those highly classified docs?🤦‍♀️
After that, I need a mental health break, and JJ tells me it's time for a walk, and who am I to argue with a dog?

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Apr 29, 2024
Everyone will have a different opinion of the strength of the Manhattan criminal case against Trump.

I am offering no opinions on the strength or who will prevail.

I am saying that people are working too hard to explain the case and figure out the legal theory.

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The prosecution has everyone confused because they are framing the case as "election fraud" and "election interference" so everyone is trying to connect the crimes we know about to "election fraud."

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The legal theory of the case should be clear.

This would be clear: "It is election fraud. Here is how the evidence will support a charge of election fraud." Then show how the behavior supports election fraud.

Does this mean the prosecution will lose? No.

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Mar 11, 2024
Finished. (Whew)

As promised, all about Legal pundits and the Outrage Industry, with a few cherished conspiracy theories carefully debunked.

Click here to start:

For years, I was perplexed by what I saw on Twitter. . .

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It seemed to me that the dynamics of social media were making people more authoritarian.

Then I started reading experts in political communication and it all started making sense.


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I wrote parts 1 - 5 in November. I thought I was finished, but I wasn't.

There were still things I didn't understand.

Writers often write to understand, so I kept reading, thinking, and writing.



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Mar 9, 2024
Whew! I finished.



Everything I promised: How to listen (or not listen) to legal pundits.

It's also about what is dangerous about the entire industry of punditry, speculation, and cable talk shows.

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For years I was perplexed by what I was seeing on left-leaning Twitter, political blogs, and partisan reporting.

I had the feeling that, in its way, what I was seeing was comparable to Fox: Lots of bad information and even unhinged conspiracy theories.
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Of course, if I suggested that, I was blasted for "both-sidesing."

Then I discovered an area of scholarship: Communications and the overlap between communications and political science.

I read these books and light bulbs went on.

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Mar 2, 2024
If Trump can win with everything we know about him, what make people think a finding of guilt would change that?

It makes no sense.
Also what if the jury acquits? It can happen.

I do recall the same people thought impeachment and indictment would cause Trump to crumble.
Another contradiction: when people demanded indictments RIGHT NOW (in 2021 and early 2022) the reason was, "Everyone knows he's guilty! Look at all the evidence!"

We saw the J6 committee findings.

Trump isn't saying "I didn't do it." He's saying, "I had the right to do it."

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We all know what he did. The question is, "Do people want a president who acts like Trump?"

A lot of people do.

People show me polls that a guilty finding would change minds.

I say rubbish. Use common sense. He lost in 2020 and he lost the popular vote in 2016. . .

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Feb 29, 2024
The news takes 2 minutes to convey.

"Here is what the court did." That is news.

Listening to people speculate about why the court did it and what it means is not news.

It is entertainment.

But it is a special kind of entertainment.

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. . . because it is designed to keep people hooked. People need to stay glued to the screen for hour after hour.

But to hook people, you need to scare them. The Facebook whistleblower testified that content that produces strong emotions like anger gets more engagement.

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Fox does the same thing. There is a few minutes of news, but the facts get lost as commentators and TV personalities speculate and scare their audiences.

Before you yell at me for comparing MSNBC to FOX, read all of this:

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Feb 29, 2024
If I write another blog post addressing the outrage cycle here on Twitter and in the MSNBC ecosystem, it will be to explore why so many people who believe they are liberal or progressive actually want a police state.

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Today alone, a handful of people who consider themselves liberal or progressive told me that the "traitors need to be arrested and prosecuted."

In 2019, back when I wore myself out tamping down misinformation, I explained the legal meaning of treason.

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Back then, I now realize, people asked politely: "Can Trump be prosecuted for treason (over the Russia election stuff).

I explained that wouldn't happen.

Now it's different. It's more like fascist chants.

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