Thread: Having just talked about retention and graduation rates today, a few thoughts to add some perspective. Have a cup of coffee and settle in for some reading.
First, there are three ways to "increase graduation rates." The first is to do a lot of work with your current students. This is the student services angle on it; the premise is that graduation rates are largely a function of what happens in college.
The problem with that is that student affairs people tend to focus on "at risk students." The problem with THAT is that a) most students who are "at risk" don't fail out, and that most students who fail out were not "at risk."
Another problem is that academic reasons are only one of the reasons students might not retain or graduate. Sorry, Clarence Thomas.
But IF you change systems that affect all students, you have a chance to increase graduation rates. Not by a lot (as we'll see in a moment) but by a little. You will not go from 65% to 80% by doing this.

You just won't.
The second way to increase graduation rates is to change how you count. I know at least two large public universities that take those students with the lowest chance of graduating, and divert them into non-full-time-status in their first term, for instance.
This means you don't count them in your graduation rate statistics. Guess what? Your grad rates go up.

Now you want to Google "Campbell's Law." Or I'll do it for you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%…
The third way is to change whom you admit.

Below are the factors that help determine who's going to graduate (they're pre-admission characteristics, which may, of course, give away the ending here.):
1) Parental attainment. If your parents went to college, you're more likely to graduate.
2) Wealth. If your parents are wealthier, you're more likely to graduate from college. This should not be a surprise to anyone who works in financial aid.
3) Ethnicity. If you are White or Asian, you're more likely to attend, and to graduate from, college.
These all affect an individual student's chances of graduating. And, of course, they covary strongly. If your college enrolls mostly students like this, your graduation rate is likely to be higher, which won't mean, of course, that your college won't take credit for it.
There are also institutional characteristics that affect graduation rates.

1) Selectivity. People affiliate with, and are less likely to switch, luxury brands.
2) Selectivity, redux. If you take very few chances in the admissions process, your grad rate will be higher. You just select those students most likely to graduate. See above to figure out what those characteristics are.
3) Extraordinary resources. If you can afford to give very generous aid packages to students who need it, you can overcome one of the biggest obstacles to graduation.

But those low-income students will still generally graduate at lower rates.
This is because there are many other factors associated with low-income families that fight against graduation.
One institution that made an effort to enroll more low-income students told their alumni that doing this was going to lower their grad rates and, thus, their USNWR ranking. Good on them.
A long time ago I wrote about how graduation rates are inputs, rather than outputs. You can predict a college's six-year grad rate very well just by looking at the Mean SAT of the incoming class. highereddatastories.com/2014/02/are-gr…
Aha! The SAT is predictive! (I can hear you through the Interwebs). Well, the SAT score does (or used to, when it was a part of admissions everywhere) capture academic prep, wealth, and ethnicity (see above). So, yeah. It's just not helpful once you know those other things.
And, of course, you can see there IS some variation among schools with similar profiles. So you MIGHT be able to improve your rates, but a) they're mostly destiny, and b) the variance is probably explained by other things.
UCLA's CIRP at HERI said there were five factors, I think, that sort of pre-destined your grad rates. Not much has changed. Except it's probably gotten harder for low-income kids to graduate.
If you're really interested in this, go to this page. Then hit {Control F} and type "graduation." You'll see a lot of words and posts about grad rates. Have at it. highereddatastories.com/p/all-posts.ht…
So, within some narrow variance, grad rates really are inputs, not outputs. But again, that won't stop some colleges from claiming otherwise.

Take a look at the numbers. Tell me if I'm wrong if you want. Come with data.
And if you accept a small percentage of applicants, and they're mostly White or Asian, of college-educated parents, and come from the top 1% of incomes, and you think your grad rates are your doing, well
Oh, and #EMTalk

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Some say that I am actively trying to persuade people not to use test prep. I don't think I've ever said that; I might think it's a bad idea, but I don't tell you how to spend your money.

You might think I'm dumb for paying to have my oil changed when I can do it myself.
I do tell people that the tests are a) not good predictors and b) bad predictors for women and students of color, and that it might not be a great idea to hitch your star to a multiple choice test, given how valuable that skill is in real life.
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Thread: How we in EM think and work.

Yesterday we closed the class and stopped taking freshman applications for fall. That's unusual at OSU, as we've typically stayed open most or all of the summer.

So, the summer is relaxation time, right?
No, for lots of reasons. First, you made a decision. Was it the right one? Or do a lot more students have double or triple deposits than usual? What's melt going to be like? Is our post-COVID admission world going to behave differently than pre-COVID?

Are we even post-COVID?
After watching deposits for four months, you now start to look at Orientation registrations, and housing contracts. And email click rates. You know some percentage of students will sign up at the last minute for the last event, but what percentage will it be this year?
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Apr 28
Thread: I don't think Sal Khan is a bad guy. But this article is full of College Board propaganda, as you might expect from someone who is indebted to the College Board. thejournal.com/Articles/2022/…
I will leave the #HateRead to @akilbello but let me just point out one thing in a quote from the article, and a piece of reality: ImageImage
The tendency of tossing out made-up crap and expecting to get away with it is where we are. It didn't start in 2015 and 2016, that that's when it solidified.

Don't let them do it.
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Apr 28
Thread: May 1 (or 2, this year).

This week a counselor contacted me and asked what percentage of freshman deposits came in very near the deadline, and whether there was any data on this phenomenon.

She had a parent who was worried because a child had not yet deposited.
So, as I often have to tell people,"no there is no data published on this little narrow but interesting question, sorry." But then I talked about my experience: Depending on the place I've worked, you might get 25% of your freshman deposits in the week leading up to May 1 (or 2)
If you are heavy in ED like some highly rejectives, you might get 60% in January, so you might get 25% of the 40% that last week. Even that 10% is a lot.

And it's also important to remember that 90% of US colleges and universities take apps past May 1 (or 2) each year.
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Apr 26
Thread: I tweeted about this yesterday (sort of sardonically), but of course this is picking up some steam now, as you knew it would. Image
First, students have always included destination in their list of things that are important. I remember a counselor in Florida in the 80's telling me that "Boston had become hot" for her students.

It's always in the top three among student motivators.
And while I hate to criticize journalists who talk to six people and make it a "trend" (because the people they talked to volunteered after seeing a question on a list serve asking if they'd noticed this), it's still worrisome.

Why?
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Apr 2
Thread: Be watching for articles and opinion pieces with the new narrative that "The SAT helps poor students." They're starting to pop up like flowers in the spring.

Why? Here's my take on it:
First, spend three minutes on this video. It's about what College Board did when the UC system tried to eliminate tests the first time, in the early part of this century. It is well worth your time. It's from @thetestdoc

thetestdoc.org/press#uc-excer…
The College Board is a business. It's now lost the UC and Cal State systems for real, and it's holding on by its fingernails. It has to find some way to maintain market share and pay the rent on its New York City office.

They're calling in chips from their true believers.
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