Having lost the battle to sabotage scientific consensus formation for #zoonosis, LLs can only invoke 'research cartel' tropes & target individual scientists.
They hope people will not realize hundreds of scientists produced the evidence. 1/
The emergence of a scientific consensus is dependent on the body of scientific #evidence, and not on who has the loudest microphone.
There are dozens of papers with evidence directly related to the #origins question, and that evidence is created by hundreds of scientists from
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all over the world. Talking about a 'research cartel' or 'conspiracy' is a ridiculously stupid idea & should be laughed out of the room.
Unhappy to report that #lableak conspiracism is going down the exact same route as the tobacco industry
They invent conflicts of interest 3/
as a tactic to attack the important work of some scientists whose studies had a big impact, purposefully ignoring that what these scientists found is completely consistent with the whole body of evidence all the others created.
It is a publicity stunt to #gaslight the public.
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If the public only hears Daszak, Shi, Holmes, Anderson, or Worobey, it makes it seem like there is a small set of virologists pushing zoonosis, when actually the real problem for the #lableak hypothesis is the whole body of evidence created by several hundreds of scientists.
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The #lableak hypothesis is not scientifically dead because Anderson, Worobey, or somebody else says so, but because it is a hypothesis that can not explain the body of evidence accumulated by several hundreds of independent scientists. In fact, it is contradicted by much of it
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And they know it, thats why they write Op-eds, not papers.
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It is our duty as the public to not be manipulated by unethical liars, grifters, and charlatans online when the scientific literature and body of evidence tell a very clear, unequivocal story
If somebody wants to change the scientific consensus, they need to do so with papers
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Nobody is prevented from publishing papers, and in fact, many of the scientists now attacked by the above shitheads were actually taking #lableak seriously and wanted to find evidence for it; but what they found ended up supporting zoonosis, nothing else.
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To see these independent scientists now being targeted individually because their science happened to contradict the powerplays of certain motivated actors is absolutely shameful, and as I said, a repeat of tobacco industry tactics.
The goal is to cause epistemic paralysis.
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When the public is being gaslit about a clear scientific consensus, critical cooperative action becomes impossible.
It is high past time that we address wildlife trade, wet markets (& lack of biosurveillance and biosecurity in factory farming etc), but we can't put pressure
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...on China to reign in these practices when we have liars gaslighting people with empty promises that shutting down 'GoF' is going to prevent pandemics, nor can we install oversight of wildlife practices there if cooperation is hindered by unfounded accusations and blame.
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Lastly, I don't blame people for believing #lableak when they were gaslit by online loudmouths. That's how I fell into the topic, but I let evidence change my mind
@janeqiuchina shows again a great sense of independent reporting on the origins; with a critical eye towards remaining uncertainties and of course the problematic nature of wildlife trade worldwide.
I have one little criticism about the room given to Kumar et al.'s study, 1/
which gives the (in my opinion) false impression that it is a coin-toss whether there were one or two zoonotic introductions. Scientific dissent does not imply that false equivalency.
Pekar vs Kumar phylogenetic methodologies are hard to compare because they do very different
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things, and one of the methods (Pekar) is clearly superior for the question at hand (rooting to identify ancestors) and consistent with all other evidence, whereas the other is not.
@Samuel_Gregson and I have talked to independent phylogenetic experts that were not involved
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2⃣ As with previous important publications about the origins topic, the first response from #conspiratorial thinkers is to ridicule, downplay and denigrate the studies and scientists involved (with absurd falsehoods and ad hominems)
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We have seen this pattern before, directed at independent scientists who contributed to the origins literature; and there are many
The goal of these personal attacks is to make life miserable for scientists who speak out, to get them to shut up or leave social media completely
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Surprise surprise, the new paperback of their book is out and @mattwridley and @Ayjchan find it in their hearts to self-promote shamelessly once again by alarmist language, blatant lies, misrepresentations, and panic-mongering.
Let's have a look at the content, shall we? 1/
Matt and Alina like to paint themselves as 'the brave truthseekers' against the establishment, in order to position themselves like that, they have to tell some convenient lies, for example, that there is no 'real interest' by the establishment to investigate.
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the evidence for that, because as far as I can tell, just last week they bragged about how EVERYBODY in the ESTABLISHMENT from WHO, US government to G7 is calling for investigations.
Certainly curious to frame this as 'interest disappeared, but good for book sales, I guess 3/
for her, it is mostly about using dramatic and alarmist language to get attention for her self-serving ends, in this case probably for her book which just released in paperback
I do not for one second believe she herself would gamble her life on lableak evidence.
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But let's do the absurd thought experiment:
If somebody forced me to gamble my life based on scientific evidence, I'd take zoonosis over lableak every time, no question.
It's like a difference in survival odds compared to jumping out of a plane with or without parachute.
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In entirely predictable fashion, the #lableak conspiracy monster eats their own, as Alina Chan now gets to experience by not being full on board with the latest fantasy about the UNC 'cover up' of the ENAC FCS. 🙄 1/
Because lableak is driven by attention mechanisms, LARPing and other social media dynamics, any influencer has to be fully on board of the gravy train to not loose their audience. But because the audience overlaps so hard with other anti-government conspiracy crowds, lableak
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becomes more and more merged with the US goverment as the key conspirator, despite the outbreak starting in Wuhan.
Conspiracy theories often reflect the specific biases of the people who believe them, and under Trump, China was more of a concern to rightwingers than their Gov.
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Debating liars is pointless, as @GidMK nicely points out. However, counterspeech is important, so is not ceding the public sphere to the most engaging liars.
So please people, ask for scientific evidence, not for debate.
I will go one further: public debates over a contoversial scientific topic (like a scientist vs a crank) are often counterproductive to public understanding, because it creates a false equivalency between speakers. We know this from climate scientists, putting them up against
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a climate change denier completely distorts the scientific consensus on the issue, making it appear as if both sides have worthy points, or worse, as if both sides enbody a valid opinion to hold and the 'science' is just too uncertain to act upon.
This is of course lunacy.
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