Q: Why don’t you want to play him?

A: He has cheated in the past and he might be cheating in the present.

Q: Which point is more important? Are you punishing him for past misdemeanours or do you have good reason to suspect he’s cheating now?

A: A bit of both.

#chessdrama
Q: So the reason you think he might be cheating now is because he’s cheated in the past?

A: Yes

Q: Once a cheater, always a cheater?

A: I didn’t say that.

Q: Can you prove that he’s cheated in over the board play more recently?

A: It’s difficult to prove. But I do suspect.
Q: Do you believe in the presumption of innocence?

A: Yes, but there is some indicative evidence here.

Q: Based on online games when he was 12 and 16?

A: Maybe more than that.

Q: Maybe?

A: I can’t say for sure.
Q: So you think he’s probably cheating in over the board play today, or is it just a possibility?

A: Somewhere between the two.

Q: And if he is, how is he doing it?

A: Everyone knows there are ways and means…

Q: So you don’t really know how?

A: No.
Q: So what you’re saying is that the knowledge that he has cheated in the past combined with the possibility that he has cheated in the present makes you feel uncomfortable about playing him?

A: Yes

Q: And is your discomfort more important than the presumption of innocence?
A: I have the right to play whoever I like.

Q: Doesn’t he have the right to do the same? Won’t your actions undermine that?

A: Do you know who I am?

Q: Magnus Carlsen?

A: Right.

Q: Right?

#ChessDrama

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Sep 28
Three questions on #chessdrama are conflated and it helps to tease them apart.

1. Hans Neimann ever cheated at chess?

-Yes, he admitted to cheating twice in online chess, when he was 12 and 16 (he’s now 19)

Odds of cheating= c100%

(But does this make him “a cheater” today ?)
2. Has Neimann cheated “more and more recently” than he’s admitted?

- Carlsen believes so. Chess cheating expert Regan believes not.

There’s indicative computer evidence, Carlsen’s intuition, Chess.kom statement, Niemann silence, peer suspicion, but no ‘proof’.

Odds: c30%?
3. Did Neimann cheat in his victory against Carlsen at Sinquefield 2022?

Carlsen suspects so, based on body language, heightened(?) accuracy of play, and the prior context of 1 and 2 above. But no plausible mechanism to cheat, and motivated reasoning.

Odds of cheating: c3% ?
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So much for #chessdrama

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First of all, a link to the relevant page on the website for those who want to get started. The deadline is the end of the day on October 3rd and we ask for a CV and letter in each case. We are also looking for new trustees and audio-visual consultants.
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A few thoughts on the journey so far:

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Just finished watching #DontLookUp
Impressive!
I wanted to share what I liked about it before I forget.
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“I had mixed feelings about metamodernism until I realised it is about mixed feelings.”

Of the 250 people at the @whatisemerging gathering this weekend, about a quarter said they were there due to interest in #metamodernism.

Here’s what that means 👇

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“Metamodernism is a feeling, and all that constitutes the feeling and flows from it. When we consider the mystery of consciousness and the human drama playing out on this charming anomaly of a planet, feelings are far from trivial – they have cosmological significance…
…The metamodern feeling co-arises through the perception of our context writ large; it is aesthetic in nature, epistemic in function, historical in character, and it serves to call into question the purpose of the world as we find it, and the meaning of life as we know it.”
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