Consorting with all sorts these days 
Now talking is @MForstater - I have a precedent using my name - audience cheers and claps.
‘My case was about the completely ordinary belief that there are men and women… we can’t stop perceiving this. Now I am a single issue campaigner with @SexMattersOrg
We are not a litigating campaign …. It’s expensive and painful. Want to unpack #Lawfare - like cake. Top layer, judges decisions. Then legislation and below that human rights. The plate the cake rests on.
So what layer do we use #LawFare on? Whatever the law says, material works will continue to exist.
The icing is regulation and guidance. How do people understand the law? Where in the cake is the problem? The Equal Treatment Bench Book is like a fish stuck in the cake - audience laugh.
Who ever wrote this is unaccountable - trying to write things into law. Just stuck a fish in it!
We need to defend reality and the words we use. Trans rights are human rights - the same rights as everyone else. No one has a right to change sex as it is impossible.
Important distinction - individuals fighting for their rights and people using law to create a ‘better society’. Should not rely on judges to make these decisions. We need culture of discussion, disagreement and debate.
Rousing contribution from @ShahrarAli - we have to fight for our rights, not settle scores. It’s imperative we do this.
Now Kate Harris @ALLIANCELGB - audience claps and cheers - I despair when I hear about ‘winning hearts and minds’. Had no idea what we were facing. We feel the law is our last resort as we live through a period of insanity.
We are not allowed in the public space to discuss what the law should be. We have no choice but to go to the law.
To sum up - a difference between individuals fighting to protect their individual rights and attempting to use the law to force social change.
Coming up @andrewdoyle_com !
Motto of this event is ‘free speech allowed’ - which of course is a Far Right dog whistle! Free speech should not be a partisan issue.
Audience - Graham Norton said it’s not cancel culture it’s accountability. Panel - pathetic. He was asked specific question about JKR. <audience clap>
Really upsetting to watch as this was his chance not to be a coward. He has never been cancelled as he doesn’t say anything to get him cancelled. Said it doesn’t exist because it didn’t happen to him.
GN suggested that JKR didn’t have a right to an opinion on this. But surely women have a right to be interested?
Asks question - does anyone think comedians should not have a right to offend? Would anyone like to make the case. No response!
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