#TheWinchesters ep 2 has compelled me to repeat myself for the MILLIONTH time regarding how Supernatural is a franchise about parents & children + cycles of trauma/violence, both in the small scale & the large scale.
I don't know why I'm writing this! I am saying the same shit I have been saying on here for at least the past year & put in my meta! But I just heard Dean Winchester say to us that you have to break free & be WHO YOU ARE (12x22, anybody?) & I'm gonna eat my foot
That is what it means to be trapped in a cycle of violence in Supernatural–a vicious circle, if you will. If you don't escape, you die. If you try to escape & get caught, you die anyway.
We see it play out on the micro & the macro levels respectively:
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We're witnessing the tragedy of what following in your father's footsteps & putting your father on a pedestal will do. We know where this leads, especially for Mary. Simultaneously, we know Mary doesn't really WANT that path–& yet the choice WILL be made for her.
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The "micro" level is the avenue of choice the characters have. Mary, who wants to find & follow her father... but also wants out of this life or to perhaps redefine it her way with her friends' help. John, who wants to find & follow his father... but on his terms.
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If they don't get to make those choices, they die. If they DO make those choices & get caught, they die anyway.
The "macro" is that the cycle is enforced through manipulations. We already know part of what happens to them: they'll be pawns in Chuck's game.
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Chuck is the abusive Father who punishes disobedient children. He'll kill you if you try to escape. His universe is built on this.
We're all parents & children, nesting together like Russian dolls.
You have to break free & be who you are, as DEAN SAYS.
This is the story of how they became #TheWinchesters.
It's about the criss-cross of needing to defy or redefine the path laid before you by your parents... & of needing to defy or redefine the path laid before you by God the Father through so-called destiny.
They are explicitly intertwined. We knew this already from the main show... but now this show is HAMMERING THAT HOME over & over again. True freedom–or free will–is about not being forced to be who your parents or who God/Chuck wants you to be.
& we are being reminded of these truths through a story that's being told by Dean Winchester... who is a son & a parent & a primary focus of the God who enforces the toxic intergenerational cycle that formed both his family & the structure of the SPN universe.
While highlighting the tragedy of his parents' history in ways that mirror HIS history, Dean is saying he knows about no longer following in a father's footsteps. About believing in yourself & being who you are.
& by virtue of saying this, it's what he's doing.
Is this thread coherent? UNSURE. Is it repetitive of what I talk about all the time & possibly within the thread itself? PROBABLY. Am I saying this show is "chuck won" propaganda? I AM GENUINELY NOT.
Also! Lest we forget:
Oh my GOD I love Carlos & Lata so much!!!!!!! & they are actively demonstrating how the avenue to breaking out of the toxic intergenerational cycle is in large part through friends & found family! 😭
Take that away & you stay trapped.
I reread the Original #Lokius Thread with hindsight & thought about how "love is an imaginary dagger" was Loki's early definition of love, & it was redefined for him via his relationship with Mobius (in contrast to Sylvie).
The "love" with Sylvie was more self-love metaphor than literal, as we know. But I find it fascinating how, throughout s2, they never grow beyond the "imaginary dagger" metaphor of fake love.
Sylvie makes Loki bleed (aka betrayal) & LITERALLY disappears/leaves him again & again.
I don't think anything with Sylvie is "bad writing" or insufferable & I think her characterization makes perfect sense.
She's dealing with her own arc, AND she's serving the very crucial purpose of highlighting Loki's growth.
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Not liking her is one thing but I don't understand declarations that she has no point in this season.
She is in a similar place Loki was in at the start of his story & even more heavily traumatized after a life of isolation. Her life's purpose was revenge & she needs a new one.
Her standard state is anger as defense especially when afraid. "Soft gets you killed" – she FEARS softness.
Is it any wonder she lashes out at Mobius, whose softness is his strength? It's projection on a man she barely knows & it's guilt just as much as it's about lack of trust.
It's the hot cocoa.
Or rather... it's Loki semi-unintentionally siding with Sylvie over Mobius. In this ep, that's the tipping point. & so is lack of trust.
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What we just watched is the version where things go very wrong & they fail.
But here's the delightful part to remember: things had to go wrong exactly like this, so eventually things can go very right. Because as "wrong" as this was, it had its purpose: Loki pruning himself.
That being said... "What's wrong?"
We've got a list.
-Timely's gone.
-Miss Minutes is back (& so is Renslayer).
-Dox & her team are dead.
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So, the love triangle in 2x03... Let's break it down a lil :)
Let's talk about
• Victor/Ravonna/Miss Minutes, & how they're dark mirrors for Loki/Mobius/Sylvie
• what this says about the story so far
• how we can use it to theorize what's next
Ready? 🪞🧵
First, in case anyone's new to mirrors, let's define it:
"Mirror Characters, also known as Parallel Characters in some literary circles, almost certainly share personality traits, values, similar skill sets, & possibly even goals & likely a narrative arc." tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.…
"Think of them like the character versions of Bookends: the similarities serve to highlight something important about the characters & their story."
(Bookends: "Matching scenes at the beginning & end of a story, often to show how things have changed." Also relevant to this show)