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Nov 4 13 tweets 3 min read
ATED is an obscure tax, that almost no non-specialists have heard of. The fact it exists is a policy failure, and the fact people are paying it is even more of a failure. Therefore we should raise it. taxpolicy.org.uk/2022/11/04/ated

#tax #ATED
We all pay stamp duty when we buy a house. But there’s a well-known trick: have your house owned by a company – a special purpose company that does absolutely nothing else (often called “enveloping”). Then you sell the shares in the company, and the buyer pays no stamp duty.
This was revealed to an incredulous world in the early 2010s. In a sane world, the “loophole” would’ve been closed by simply applying stamp duty to the sale of the shares...
But instead, anyone exploiting it and buying residential real estate held by a company was stung with an annual tax – the “annual tax on enveloped dwellings” introduced in 2013 – ATED.
The idea was that the prospect of paying an annual tax would put people off enveloping altogether – ATED wouldn’t raise much money, but would increase stamp duty revenues. That didn’t quite happen – and ATED, the tax that nobody was supposed to pay, ended up raising £100m+/year
There are around 5,000 residential properties still held in envelopes (including about 100 properties worth more than £20m).
Why are people stubbornly keeping their homes enveloped, despite ATED?

Sometimes to hide the identity of owners (whether because of security concerns or more malign reasons) – although this will now be harder to do.
Sometimes simply because ATED is way too small to undo the stamp duty saving from enveloping. The tax applies in bands like this:
Which means that the gap between stamp duty and ATED is fairly dramatic, particularly at the high end.
So ATED is too low to do the job it was designed to do. The enveloping "loophole" is still worthwhile, and the more expensive the property, the more worthwhile it is.
ATED currently raises £111 million. If we triple the rate, we should be at the point where the enveloping trick no longer saves tax. I estimate we'd raise around £200m (in increased stamp duty and/or ATED).
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The CGT exemption for peoples’ homes (“principal private residences”) costs £30bn. But abolishing it would not raise anything like £30bn. Quick thread:
A few counties charge CGT on homes. The US is the best-known example. But they all allow “roll-over”.
For example - you buy a house for 100. You sell it for 150 and buy a new house for 200. You pay no CGT now, but you’re treated as if you bought the new house for 100. Your old gain is “rolled over” into the new house.
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Looks like Uber is having to cough up VAT for all of its historic fares. How many years' worth of VAT does this represent for Uber?

Some quick back-of-the-envelope-math:
Uber has approx $1bn of UK revenue standard.co.uk/business/uber-…

Average FX about 1.3

So £613m represents 613 / ($1bn/1.3 * 20%) = approx 4 years of revenues
Now it's all more complicated than that, with Uber's revenue and FX rates varying, and likely interest charged, so the fact my estimate coincidences with the figure in the report is pure coincidence.

But it seems reasonably likely this represents four years of VAT.
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Here's where I think the top ten are currently domiciled:
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And I am perfectly entitled to form an opinion that HMRC are likely investigating Zahawi at the moment. I was head of UK tax for one of the largest law firms in the world. This is my area of expertise.

The idea I cannot state this opinion is outrageous and has no legal basis.
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I don't mean Jeremy Hunt. taxpolicy.org.uk/2022/07/14/hun…
I don't mean Sajid Javid ft.com/content/647eb1…
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